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Tue Jan 15, 2013, 07:55 PM

Occupy the NRA



https://www.facebook.com/OccupyTheNRA?group_id=0

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Reply Occupy the NRA (Original post)
SecularMotion Jan 2013 OP
virginia mountainman Jan 2013 #1
SecularMotion Jan 2013 #2
Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #5
SecularMotion Jan 2013 #7
Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #8
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #9
SecularMotion Jan 2013 #10
ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #11
friendly_iconoclast Jan 2013 #15
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #16
Travis_0004 Jan 2013 #3
Squinch Jan 2013 #4
Travis_0004 Jan 2013 #6
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #17
Squinch Jan 2013 #18
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #20
Common Sense Party Jan 2013 #12
Glaug-Eldare Jan 2013 #13
GreenStormCloud Jan 2013 #14
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #19

Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:01 PM

1. Odd, MLK was denied a gun permit when his house was bombed...NT....

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Response to virginia mountainman (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:09 PM

2. Al Sharpton addressed that yesterday

Ward justified his argument by pointing out that King once applied for and was denied a gun permit, but Sharpton added that King later said he was glad he had been turned down for the permit and that he would never carry a gun again.

http://tv.msnbc.com/2013/01/14/watch-gun-appreciation-day-organizer-insists-hes-honoring-mlks-legacy-sharpton-responds/

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:43 PM

5. Even imagining that Sharpton is a reputable source,

whose decision should that have been? Rev. King's, or some LEO who didn't like the color of his skin? Was it right that King was denied the opportunity to choose?

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Response to Glaug-Eldare (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:00 PM

7. Why would you imagine that Al Sharpton is not a reputable source?

Is it the color of his skin?

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:01 PM

8. You answer mine first.

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:16 PM

9. Sharpton ignores the Deacons for Defense

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 09:24 PM

10. He's not the only one who holds that opinion

It is difficult to find any historians outside of Hill who view the Deacons or other armed groups as the engine behind the great achievements of the Civil Rights Movement. Howard Zinn, in A People’s History of the United States, concluded, “King’s stress on love and nonviolence was powerfully effective in building a sympathetic following throughout the nation, among whites as well as blacks.” Peter B. Levy, author of The Civil Rights Movement, wrote:

For many Americans, the image of Connor’s German shepherd dogs biting at the limbs of peaceful protestors became a symbol of the viciousness and ugliness of the southern way of life. Polls showed an outpouring of support for King; letters and telegrams poured into the White House expressing support for the goals of the movement… It took the assassination of John F. Kennedy, brutal assaults against nonviolent protesters in Birmingham, Selma, and elsewhere, and a massive lobbying effort to gain passage of the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act.

Journalist/author Charles Lane, reflecting back on the Colfax Massacre, wrote, “The revolutionary new ingredient was nonviolence. The dignified resistance of Martin Luther King, Jr.’s legions succeeded where William Ward and P.B.S. Pinchback had failed.”

http://wagingnonviolence.org/2010/09/debunking-the-gun-control-is-racist-smear/

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:43 PM

11. Fortunately the truth is better documented than the agenda driven fictions

The Deacons were real and protected King and others during the worst of things.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:58 PM

15. +1. I'm sure Sharpton would prefer *these* inconvenient truths were ignored:

http://www.onthemedia.org/2010/aug/27/tabula-rosa/transcript/


TIM TYSON: I think for some reason we are unwilling to honor people who are politically active. We want to honor people who just have had enough and sort of spontaneously won't take it any more. But somehow if they get categorized as active citizens, which would be a positive way of saying it, as troublemakers – which is the way we often think about such persons – then somehow it becomes self-serving, part of a movement which we're less comfortable with. And I think that's just an American popular cultural narrative that we pick up very quickly. And indeed, it started very quickly after the bus boycott. And they talked about her tired feet. That gets mentioned a lot more often than it should. She may have been a little bit tired, but that had nothing to do with the decision that she made. BOB GARFIELD: In that same Washington Post obituary there was, it seemed, a palpable sense of disappointment that the myth is, in fact, a myth. Why are we so reluctant to let it go? TIM TYSON: There's a sense in which Mrs. Parks is very important to our post-civil rights racial narrative, because we really want a kind of sugar-coated civil rights movement that's about purity and interracial non-violence. And so we don't really want to meet the real Rosa Parks. We don't, for example, want to know that in the late 1960s, Rosa Parks became a black nationalist and a great admirer of Malcolm X. I met Rosa Parks at the funeral of Robert F. Williams, who had fought the Ku Klux Klan in North Carolina with a machine gun in the late 1950s and then fled to Cuba, and had been a kind of international revolutionary icon of black power. Ms. Parks delivered the eulogy at his funeral. She talks in her autobiography and says that she never believed in non-violence and that she was incapable of that herself, and that she kept guns in her home to protect her family. But we want a little old lady with tired feet. You may have noticed we don't have a lot of pacifist white heroes. We prefer our black people meek and mild, I think.

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Response to SecularMotion (Reply #10)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 05:59 PM

16. You might wish to take a look at this...

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Response to virginia mountainman (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:15 PM

3. So it sounds like the best solution is to not requrie gun permits

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Response to Travis_0004 (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:29 PM

4. You're going to say spoons kill people, aren't you?

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Response to Squinch (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 08:49 PM

6. No

If you think requiring permits, that might be denied because a person is black, or making it so only the rich can have guns, then I fail to see how that is a better system.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #4)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:01 PM

17. Actually, it's that case of 303...

cans of beans.

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #17)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:03 PM

18. Another DUer told me he was told that if guns have to be controlled, pool noodles should be too.

That's my favorite so far.

Though beans can be unpleasant.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:06 PM

20. Only when fired.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Tue Jan 15, 2013, 11:51 PM

12. What does that even mean? How are you planning to "occupy" the NRA?

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Response to Common Sense Party (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 08:42 AM

13. Their HQ is on Waples Mill Rd in Fairfax, VA

Not too keen on that outfit, but they've got a really great collection of antiques and historical arms at their museum there.

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Response to SecularMotion (Original post)

Wed Jan 16, 2013, 03:03 PM

14. Do they really think that they will just walk in the front door and take over? N/T

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Response to GreenStormCloud (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:05 PM

19. Went to a couple of Occupy events in Austin. So, now they are dealing with NRA?

Seems like such a waste. A lot of folks sympathetic to Occupy Austin owned guns.

We once had leaders who fought for civil rights, voting rights, job training, a better environment, better schools, labor rights, and non-violent foreign affairs.

Now all I get is this stinking gun-control t-shirt.

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