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Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:17 PM

The NRA has a plan...

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Reply The NRA has a plan... (Original post)
ellisonz Jan 2013 OP
gejohnston Jan 2013 #1
ellisonz Jan 2013 #2
gejohnston Jan 2013 #3
ellisonz Jan 2013 #4
AtheistCrusader Jan 2013 #5
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #7
ellisonz Jan 2013 #18
Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #19
ileus Jan 2013 #6
sylvi Jan 2013 #14
Decoy of Fenris Jan 2013 #20
sylvi Jan 2013 #8
gejohnston Jan 2013 #9
DonP Jan 2013 #10
gejohnston Jan 2013 #11
ileus Jan 2013 #15
sylvi Jan 2013 #13
LawnKorn Jan 2013 #12
ileus Jan 2013 #16
Undismayed Jan 2013 #17

Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:28 PM

1. that is actually Barbara Boxer's plan

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-sen-boxer-national-guard-schools-20121219,0,7530900.story

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/barbara-boxer-triggers-outrage-over-proposal-deploy-national-guard-public-schools

I have an honest question, those against arming teachers or posting cops, none of the ridicule comes from security experts, firearms/self defense instructors or experts, or even cops. All the criticism I see are pundits who have no such qualifications making nonsensical rants and personal attacks. Not saying I support the idea, just saying I don't see people who know what they are talking about saying anything.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:29 PM

2. So you're supporting the President's plan on gun control no matter the specifics?

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:39 PM

3. didn't say that either.

why would I support anyone's plan about anything without knowing what it is? That is like saying having troops with full auto assault rifles (real assault rifles, not the pretend assault rifle sometimes called "assault weapon") is a great idea simply because Boxer is a Democrat.

For either of us know, he could be saying "That Bill Ruger guy had the right idea". and leave it at that. I picture NICS improvement and a return to a the Bill Bennett inspired import ban.
I just find it odd that people are basing their opinions on the irrational and uninformed rants of TV pundits.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:41 PM

4. Discerning right from wrong?

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:08 PM

5. So far.

I want to see what Biden puts on the table. So far, good stuff publicly.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:12 PM

7. Do you support the Boxer-NRA talking point?

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Response to Eleanors38 (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 01:48 AM

18. Heck No

Do you support the Wayne LaPierre talking point?

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #18)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 02:52 AM

19. Write to Boxer & tell her to stop supporting NRA.nt

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:54 PM

6. Finger off the trigger.

poor example for the kids...even my 10 and 8 YO's know to keep the meat hook off the bang switch.

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Response to ileus (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:29 PM

14. I'd ditch the ACOG, too

 

in favor of an unmagnified Aimpoint or Eotech for that scenario.

Teach by example, for sure.

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Response to ileus (Reply #6)

Wed Jan 9, 2013, 03:50 AM

20. Also, barrel down. n/t

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:24 PM

8. Does it have to be an officer in full tactical regalia?

 

Our county has had School Resource Officers ever since Ted Bundy found his final victim in a 12 yr. old junior high school girl here. In all those years since there's never been an issue with their presence that I'm aware of.

Why the need for such overwrought, hyperbolic displays from grab nuts to promote their views? Can't your arguments stand on their own merits without them?

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Response to sylvi (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:28 PM

9. I'm guessing it is army type

hence my reference to Barbara Boxer plan. I didn't think of it as a cop in a SWAT outift.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:50 PM

10. Armed police or other guards are pretty common in many private and a lot of public schools

In Chicago having one or two on duty cops in the halls during the day is not at all unusual in many high schools and "at risk" neighborhoods. Pretty low key and no problems for over a decade with them.

The private schools Rahm's kids and the President and many legislators children attend in DC also have multiple armed guards patrolling, in addition to the obvious secret service people.

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Response to DonP (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 05:52 PM

11. my kids' schools had cops too

but not the vest, rifle, and helmet.

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Response to DonP (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:32 PM

15. My kids schools do also.

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Response to gejohnston (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:20 PM

13. Oh I wasn't directing that to you, gj

 

But rather the alarmists like whoever drew this cartoon and the ones shrieking about, "ZOMG, you want militarize our schools!!!" at the mere mention of providing additional security.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:11 PM

12. The person who drew the cartoon is an idiot

The soldier has his finger on the trigger.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:37 PM

16. Hopefully that child will understand our freedoms someday.

Never give up what you can't get back.

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Response to ileus (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 8, 2013, 11:11 PM

17. Sadly, most people are emotional and prone to manipulation.

 

Scare the masses enough and they'll support anything. How do you think we got the patriot act?

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