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elleng

(130,864 posts)
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:11 AM Jan 2017

Why Clam-Chowder Pizza Is the Best Kind

(Maybe/Maybe not, but want to share! I'm a New Yorker, after all!)

'Some winter nights when my heart is tight, I take the F train from work to stand on the sidewalk in front of the plate-glass window at Lucali, the famed, candlelit pizzeria on Henry Street in Brooklyn, and watch Mark Iacono make pizza. His movements are slow, deliberative. They resemble a jungle cat, grooming. The dough moves back and forth in his hands, slowly growing in circumference. Iacono barely looks at it. He looks at the people in the dining room, though his gaze is middle-distance unfocused. His pizza-making is a meditation. Pizza-making should be a meditation. I go home and make pizza.

On other suffering evenings, I walk down the echoing corridors and ramps of Grand Central Terminal and make my way to a stool in the Oyster Bar for a pan roast. I like the cherrystone version better than the oyster one and, especially, the rich interplay of the clam juice and the cream, the way it soaks into the toast points floating in the center of the bowl. I do not make pan roasts at home. Pan roasts should be made only in the steam kettles of the Grand Central Oyster Bar. But I do make clam chowder, and I float toast points on top of it, and that is what John Cheever called a triumph over chaos, every time.

Lately I’ve been doing both, at once: clam-chowder pizza, a balm against the pain of the world. It was probably Frank Pepe who invented the clam pizza, in New Haven, scattering freshly shucked littlenecks onto a round of dough, then pecorino cheese, garlic, oregano, black pepper and a torrent of olive oil. That was in the 1940s, according to his family, which still operates Frank Pepe Pizzeria Napoletana on Wooster Street there.'>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/12/magazine/why-clam-chowder-pizza-is-the-best-kind.html?

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Why Clam-Chowder Pizza Is the Best Kind (Original Post) elleng Jan 2017 OP
Ew Warpy Jan 2017 #1
I'm with you but, elleng Jan 2017 #2
As far as I'm concerned, it doesn't get any better than true Neapolitan pizza Major Nikon Jan 2017 #3
You're probably right. elleng Jan 2017 #4
I agree that there are somethings that absolutely don't belong on pizza. PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2017 #5

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
1. Ew
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:15 AM
Jan 2017

Some things should not go on a pizza. Clam chowder is one of them.

Now you can get a nice clam pizza with marinara sauce and spices balanced for seafood in Boston's North End.

But clam chowder? No. Just no.

elleng

(130,864 posts)
2. I'm with you but,
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 04:22 AM
Jan 2017

you know, many don't 'believe in' Manhattan Clam Chowder, the kind I grew up with!

elleng

(130,864 posts)
4. You're probably right.
Fri Jan 13, 2017, 12:37 PM
Jan 2017

Sorry to say, having visited Naples a couple of times, briefly, I don't think I had pizza!

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
5. I agree that there are somethings that absolutely don't belong on pizza.
Sat Jan 14, 2017, 12:55 AM
Jan 2017

Clams or clam chowder are definitely among those somethings.

For what it's worth, the very best clam chowder (New England style, although I also love Manhattan style) I've ever had has been in Portland, OR. Two different restaurants, and I have no idea why they do it so well there, but absolutely fantastic.

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