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Bertha Venation

(21,484 posts)
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:24 PM Nov 2014

I'm 51 and I just made my first meatloaf.

It came out dry. 😢 But I followed the recipe very closely. Ground beef and pork, cracker crumbs, an egg, salt and pepper, ketchup, Worcestershire, onion, and parsley. I cooked it at the right temp (350F) for the correct time (an hour and ten minutes).

Why was it dry? How do I fix it?

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I'm 51 and I just made my first meatloaf. (Original Post) Bertha Venation Nov 2014 OP
Not an expert, but I would let it brown and then cover with foil. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #1
How'd the pies go, SKP, elleng Nov 2014 #3
I followed all the tips except one, leaving the dough in the fridge overnight. NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #4
Happy Day to you too, Turkey! elleng Nov 2014 #6
We're two Turkeys, that's what I think! NYC_SKP Nov 2014 #8
Yup, Y'n Me! elleng Nov 2014 #9
Here's James Beard's recipe, elleng Nov 2014 #2
Just a Guess Leith Nov 2014 #5
Yep that's my guess too. cbayer Nov 2014 #22
It might have something to do with the grade of ground beef you used. Suich Nov 2014 #7
My recipe PADemD Nov 2014 #10
Yes to the foil suggestion Freddie Nov 2014 #11
I go by feel, but Retrograde Nov 2014 #12
What I do to make it moister is grate some onion in it. LawDeeDah Nov 2014 #13
I found out the secret to meatloaf and meatballs was mixing the stuff with one of these Warpy Nov 2014 #14
Ganked? Bertha Venation Dec 2014 #27
I never wrap meatloaf in foil to cook it. JayhawkSD Nov 2014 #15
that's what I was going to say, too NJCher Nov 2014 #16
This... Fix The Stupid Nov 2014 #17
There might be something with the cooking time Nac Mac Feegle Nov 2014 #18
probably meat was too lean Kali Nov 2014 #19
That's a problem that many have with meatloaf and hamburgers Major Nikon Nov 2014 #26
My recipe is pretty basic and it calls for 0.5 cup of milk. Lars39 Nov 2014 #20
I use milk as well The empressof all Nov 2014 #21
The oatmeal fills us up a bit more... Lars39 Nov 2014 #24
my favorite recipe for meatloaf, been making it for 40 years dem in texas Nov 2014 #23
You need panko and a panade. Trust me..it never fails. Sub out msanthrope Nov 2014 #25
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Not an expert, but I would let it brown and then cover with foil.
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:27 PM
Nov 2014

I like the crispy crust, but think about what an oven does: it heats things up and dries them out, no way around it.

So I would let it go for a while to sear the top and then cover it with foil.

I'm curious to see what others say, I'm a total newbie.

Yesterday I baked my first two pies, ever, one from total scratch, dough and everything!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
4. I followed all the tips except one, leaving the dough in the fridge overnight.
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:36 PM
Nov 2014

I almost made another batch but decided to wait til we've tried the first two, for filling etc.

The dough just wasn't as consolidated as it could have been so was fragile and hard to handle, but I think it will taste pretty good.

The second pie used store dough in rolls and canned peaches, so I have a Granny Smith apple from scratch and a peach pie quickie, for comparison.

Happy day, elleng!

Gobble Gobble!!!

elleng

(130,865 posts)
6. Happy Day to you too, Turkey!
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:45 PM
Nov 2014

Used to make pies, both with and without my mother, loaded with fresh fruit, some berries from garden, but never crust from scratch. Going to daughter's 'new' in-laws tomorrow, offered but not bringing anything. Hope I don't have to pick up pies for myself for Friday from darn grocery store!!!

elleng

(130,865 posts)
2. Here's James Beard's recipe,
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:29 PM
Nov 2014

which I used to use:

2 lbs. ground beef
1 lb. ground pork
2 garlic cloves, finely chopped
1 fairly lg. onion, finely chopped
1 tsp. salt
1 tsp. freshly ground black pepper
1 crumbled bay leaf
1/2 tsp. crumbled thyme leaves
1 tsp. freshly chopped green pepper
1/2 c. dry bread crumbs
2 eggs
Bacon or salt pork

Mix all ingredients, except bacon, thoroughly blended. Form into a long loaf or cake and press firmly. Arrange enough slices of bacon or salt pork on the bottom of a baking pan to hold the meat loaf. Brush the loaf with butter and cross with 2 to 4 additional slices of bacon. Bake at 325 degrees, basting occasionally, for 1 1/2 to 1 3/4 hours, or until meat loaf is cooked through. Let stand for 10 to
15 minutes before serving.


HOPE things work out, BV!

Leith

(7,809 posts)
5. Just a Guess
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:45 PM
Nov 2014

The meat you used had a low fat content. It's good to limit fat in red meat, but more juiciness comes from more fat.

Suich

(10,642 posts)
7. It might have something to do with the grade of ground beef you used.
Wed Nov 26, 2014, 11:45 PM
Nov 2014

The most expensive has only 10% fat (I think), then the next has 20% fat and the 3rd, 30% fat.

I used to buy the most expensive, thinking it was the "best," but I've since learned there's a lot of flavor (and more "liquid&quot in the higher fat content ground beef.

Just my 2 cents!

Happy Thanksgiving!

PADemD

(4,482 posts)
10. My recipe
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:09 AM
Nov 2014

I use 1 pound of ground beef, 2 extra large eggs, 1 chopped onion, and mix with just enough Italian flavored bread crumbs so that the meat can be molded into a loaf. Cover and bake at 350 for 45 minutes.

Unless your meatloaf was larger, 70 minutes sounds too long.

My Mom used to make smaller meatloaves (about the size of 3-4 large meatballs) in a large covered casserole dish and bake with a home-made barbecue sauce. When there was just a little ketchup left in the jar, she added some water, mustard, brown sugar, and Worcestershire sauce. I found I could get the same flavor by mixing ketchup, Masterpiece BBQ sauce, and water.

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
11. Yes to the foil suggestion
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:15 AM
Nov 2014

The sight of undercooked ground beef makes my stomach turn so I always "burned" (per DH) meatloaf until I started using foil. Follow your favorite recipe, cook for the first hour in a loaf pan tightly covered with foil. Drain fat, then bake another 15-20 minutes uncovered to brown or bake on a glaze or catsup. Oven temp 350. Gets nice and "done" but still moist. DH and our son actually ask for meatloaf now.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
12. I go by feel, but
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:57 AM
Nov 2014

Last edited Thu Nov 27, 2014, 03:05 PM - Edit history (1)

just reading your post, I can't see what went wrong - except low fat content in the ground meats. My own method is to mix whatever meats are on sale (usually a blend of beef/pork/lamb/veal, although the proportions vary) with a mince of onion/pepper/carrot, an egg - then have my sous-chef (aka Mr. Retrograde) add breadcrumbs gradually while I knead the mixture. I go for a texture that's still highly moist, but can be molded by hand into a loaf (yes, it's a messy business).

So what can you do now? The last time I made entirely too much meatloaf, I took the tail end, crumbled it into a tomato sauce, and made sort of a mock Bolognese sauce for pasta. I've had better, but I had wasting meat.

Warpy

(111,245 posts)
14. I found out the secret to meatloaf and meatballs was mixing the stuff with one of these
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:08 AM
Nov 2014


Made for easy dough mixing, it does a great job of keeping meatloaf and meatballs light and juicy.

Available here, where I ganked the image: http://breadtopia.com/store/danish-dough-whisk/
 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
15. I never wrap meatloaf in foil to cook it.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 02:12 AM
Nov 2014

1-1/2 # ground beef (85% lean works best)
1 cup fine bread crumbs
1-1/4 cups milk
1 egg, beaten
½ cup onion, chopped
½ cup celery, chopped
1-1/4 tsp salt
2-3 cloves garlic, crushed
1 tsp Oregano
2 tbsp Barbeque sauce

Just mix everything well and bake at 350 for 1-1/2 hours.

Notice the milk, and I agree with the comments about fat content. 15% is minimum and 20% is better.

NJCher

(35,654 posts)
16. that's what I was going to say, too
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 09:58 AM
Nov 2014

The bread crumbs need to be mixed with milk beforehand. That's what makes for a moist meatloaf (plus the fat content).



Cher

Fix The Stupid

(947 posts)
17. This...
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 12:09 PM
Nov 2014


This is how I do it and my meatloaf is legendary - even wrote a song about it!

For a 2lb meatloaf I use 2 cups of milk and I shred 3 slices of bread with a cheese grater. Put the bread in the freezer for a few hours before you shred it - much easier to work with...

But yeah, this OP needs to add the milk.

Nac Mac Feegle

(969 posts)
18. There might be something with the cooking time
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 07:07 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:46 PM - Edit history (1)

I find that using a thermometer to tell me when a piece of meat is done is a lot more accurate. A probe thermometer will tell you when the thing is done much more accurately than a set amount of time. Ovens can vary in temperature from one to another. If something is cooked too long it will be dry.

**** Updated from real computer ********

The issue of fat content of the meats is discussed above, by others.

One of the biggest problems a recipe writer will have is the cooking time. Ovens vary quite a bit in temperature accuracy, temperature control, distance from element to food, how well they're insulated and sealed. This creates a VERY big problem with cooking times.

Just think of a modern oven with electronic temperature controls and an old gas oven with 'temperature numbers engraved around a knob. You aren't really sure of either of them, truthfully. How good is the calibration of the electronics, much less the notches in the knob? Then we get to the question of the seal on the oven door.

As you can see, there are some places where problems can arise. That's why many 'foodies' tend to keep an oven thermometer in their oven.

If you have a low fat piece of meat, and it gets cooked a bit too long, it can come out resembling jerky more than roast. The best solution is to use a thermometer to give the exact temp of what is being cooked. I prefer one with a probe on about 3 feet of cable to a small digital readout/timer unit for roasting meats. It can be set to alarm at a certain temperature or time (for rotating the meat) and the remote probe lets me keep the oven door closed. And I'm not poking a bunch of holes in the meat for juices to use as a handy escape route.

Sidebar:
As proteins heat up, they de-nature. The long molecules coil up and squeeze out water from the cells. The trick is to cook them enough to break down the fibers, but leave enough moisture that the piece is still chew-able. With ground meats, a lot of the fiber breakdown has already happened, but you still need to get it hot enough to consume safely. Chicken anywhere under 145 degrees F is HORRIBLE, aside from dangerous.

Good luck. Keep trying. If nothing else, meatloaf sandwiches are awesome to take to work.

Kali

(55,007 posts)
19. probably meat was too lean
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 08:06 PM
Nov 2014

even pork is pretty lean these days. your recipe sounds ok, (I use cracker crumbs too) you can add a little milk to the mixture - also needs 2-4 strips of bacon on top of each loaf, especially if your beef is lean.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
26. That's a problem that many have with meatloaf and hamburgers
Sat Nov 29, 2014, 09:21 AM
Nov 2014

Ground chuck is the best thing to use which has 20% fat.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
20. My recipe is pretty basic and it calls for 0.5 cup of milk.
Thu Nov 27, 2014, 11:33 PM
Nov 2014

I use 0.5 cup oatmeal instead of 0.5 cup cracker crumbs, though.

The empressof all

(29,098 posts)
21. I use milk as well
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:02 AM
Nov 2014

I soak bread crumbs in milk but I bet Bertha can soak those cracker crumbs before adding to the mix and get a moister loaf next time. I've never used oatmeal...

dem in texas

(2,674 posts)
23. my favorite recipe for meatloaf, been making it for 40 years
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 01:19 AM
Nov 2014

1 1/2 to 2 pounds lean ground beef
1 small onion, finely chopped
2 small stalks celery, finely chopped
1 egg
3 or 4 slices white bread, soaked in milk
1 envelope dry French onion soup mix
1/4 cup catsup
2 or 3 tablespoons Worcestershire sauce
Salt and pepper to taste


pour milk off the bread and squeeze bread to remove more milk. In bowl mix beef, onion, celery, egg, squeezed bread, onion soup mix, catsup, Worcestershire sauce and salt and pepper. Mix thoroughly with hands or use food processor. Spray baking dish with pam, place meat mixture in dish, shaping into loaf, leaving about 1/2 inch all around.

Cover loaf with catsup, like you are icing a cake. Lay the green bell pepper strips crosswise on top. Cover pan with foil and bake in 325 degree oven about 45 to 50 minutes. If there is excess liquid, pour off, put meat loaf back in oven without foil to brown up a little, 10 or 15 minutes more.

Let stand five minutes before slicing. This meatloaf slices up well when cold.

Topping
Green bell pepper cut in long thin slices
More catsup to cover meatloaf

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
25. You need panko and a panade. Trust me..it never fails. Sub out
Fri Nov 28, 2014, 10:03 PM
Nov 2014

your crumbs for panko. And then soak them in milk...just enough to wet them well. Mix that in, and cover the meatloaf with tomato paste mixed with red wine. It forms a great crust.

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