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teddy51 May 2012 OP
demosincebirth May 2012 #1
JayhawkSD May 2012 #2
wildeyed May 2012 #3
progree May 2012 #4
Old Codger Jun 2012 #5
JayhawkSD Jun 2012 #6
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Old Codger Jun 2012 #8

Response to teddy51 (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2012, 01:05 AM

1. Well, all I can say is it's your choice. I hope none of those "yets" catch up with you. Good

luck, teddy

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Response to teddy51 (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2012, 01:08 AM

2. There is no such thing as a "typical alcoholic"

The only thing we have in common is that once we take one drink we can no longer quarantee our sobriety.

If you can "see no reason for recovery" then don't recover. When you do see a reason for recovery then recover.

I will say this, though. I really like Spam. I eat it quite frequently and usually when I open a can of Spam I eat the whole can. I see no reason to quit eating Spam, and I see no reason to quit eating it a whole can at a time.

But I'm not writing to addiction groups to explain that I don't need to quit eating Spam.

And you are writing to an addiction group to explain that you don't need to stop drinking. Why are you doing that?

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Response to teddy51 (Original post)

Tue May 29, 2012, 08:14 AM

3. It is taking a toll on you physically, but you can't moderate your behavior?

So how much of a toll before you see a reason to recover? I was so young when I got sober that the physical health was not a huge issue. But I could not stand the alcoholic hangovers anymore. It seemed like they were getting worse and worse and I could not moderate my drinking so as not to be so sick in the mornings. So I went to a few AA meetings. Eventually I caught on and did begin to recover and voila! No more sick, alcoholic hangovers!

Good luck. Hope you get it sorted out.

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Response to teddy51 (Original post)

Thu May 31, 2012, 10:00 AM

4. Whew, nearly 17 standard drinks

Happy Hours are my down fall, they never seem to end and I wind up drinking 25 oz's of hard liquor before I am done. Most often, I am a pleasant drunk but it is taking it's toll on me physically.


25 ounces of hard liquor, assuming 80 proof, is 16.7 standard drinks, using 0.6 oz pure alcohol as the definition of a standard drink. No wonder it is taking a toll on your physically. (A standard drink is 0.6 oz of pure alcohol, the same as a 12 oz can of 5% alcohol beer such as Budweiser, a 5 oz glass of 12% wine, or 1.5 ounces of 80 proof liquor. Using a common alternative definition of standard drink as 0.5 oz alcohol, 25 ounces of 80 proof liquor is 20 standard drinks). It must be taking a toll on you financially too -- since you mention Happy Hour -- I assume a lot of that is at a bar.

Most often, a pleasant drunk .... what about the "less often" occasions?

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Response to teddy51 (Original post)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 12:52 AM

5. The first step

Is as you have done, admit that you have a problem.Once you have done that you must take the next logical step and attempt to do something about it.... Once admitted there is no way to unring that bell, it will always be there... it may be a while before you take that next step and attempt to do something about it but that day is coming for sure. Whether you will be successful at it is something that remains to be seen, only time will tell. I wish you the best in your journey .

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Response to Old Codger (Reply #5)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 09:53 AM

6. Except he has not admitted that he has a problem

He says that he "sees no reason to recover at this time." That's pretty much the definition of denying that he has a problem.

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Response to JayhawkSD (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 07:14 PM

7. He is thinking about it though.

Doesn't that have to happen first?

Maybe recognizing one's problem is a process.



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Response to JayhawkSD (Reply #6)

Sat Jun 9, 2012, 08:26 PM

8. Well

Quoting from his post

"Most often, I am a pleasant drunk but it is taking it's toll on me physically."

Pretty much looks like he is recognizing he has a problem to me... He is definitely in denial when he states he is not a typical drunk, there is no such critter as a "typical drunk" he is a drunk period, he says he is an alcoholic the denies he needs to do anything at this time, wonder what it will take for him? We all had our "bottoms" some were high bottoms some were low bottoms everyone is different in that respect but it is a bottom one way or the other. maybe a DWI will do it maybe a small accident will do it or maybe a serious accident will do it might even end up killing someone,I sincerely hope not but has happened many many times....

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