Tue Nov 13, 2012, 02:24 PM

What happens to women denied abortions?

http://io9.com/5958187/what-happens-to-women-denied-abortions-this-is-the-first-scientific-study-to-find-out?

Public health researchers with the UC San Francisco group Advancing New Standards in Public Health (ANSIRH) used data from 956 women who sought abortions at 30 different abortion clinics around the U.S. 182 of them were turned away. The researchers, led by Diana Foster Greene, followed and did intensive interviews with these women, who ran the gamut of abortion experiences. Some obtained abortions easily, for some it was a struggle to get them, and some were denied abortions because their pregnancies had lasted a few days beyond the gestational limits of their local clinics. Two weeks ago, the research group presented what they'd learned after four years of the planned five-year, longitudinal "Turnaway Study" at the recent American Public Health Association conference in San Francisco.

Here's the short version of what they discovered, from a post they made on the Global Turnaway Study Facebook page:

We have found that there are no mental health consequences of abortion compared to carrying an unwanted pregnancy to term. There are other interesting findings: even later abortion is safer than childbirth and women who carried an unwanted pregnancy to term are three times more likely than women who receive an abortion to be below the poverty level two years later.

~more at link~

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7 replies	Author	Time	Post
What happens to women denied abortions? (Original post)	LadyHawkAZ	Nov 2012	OP
wow	libodem	Nov 2012	#1
I kinda feel this way, too.	Lunacee_2013	Apr 6	#6
yep	libodem	Apr 6	#7
Meanwhile in Ireland...	LadyHawkAZ	Nov 2012	#2
Yeah. Exactly.	Warren DeMontague	Nov 2012	#3
It being a Catholic country is no excuse for ignoring septicemia.	Gormy Cuss	Nov 2012	#4
I JUST read this article	obamanut2012	Nov 2012	#5

Response to LadyHawkAZ (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 04:09 PM

libodem (11,811 posts)

1. wow

Fascinating study. I attended some Ekencar (I know that phonetic spelling is pretty far gone wrong) meetings in the 80's. They had a very peaceful ideology about the spirits of miscarried or aborted fetuses. It was just not their time for a body and an earth plain experience. The spirit doesn't enter before the first breath. They hang around and wait. Maybe wing around. And just go back to the soul pool lottery.
Any way I'm not religious. But for those whom are I think it could be comforting.

Should be a woman's choice. No questions asked.

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Sat Apr 6, 2013, 01:12 AM

Lunacee_2013 (36 posts)

6. I kinda feel this way, too.

I don't think you're really "alive" until you're actually born.

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Sat Apr 6, 2013, 02:27 AM

libodem (11,811 posts)

7. yep

Pretty much.

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:46 AM

LadyHawkAZ (3,878 posts)

2. Meanwhile in Ireland...

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/frontpage/2012/1114/1224326575203.html

Savita Halappanavar (31), a dentist, presented with back pain at the hospital on October 21st, was found to be miscarrying, and died of septicaemia a week later.

Her husband, Praveen Halappanavar (34), an engineer at Boston Scientific in Galway, says she asked several times over a three-day period that the pregnancy be terminated. He says that, having been told she was miscarrying, and after one day in severe pain, Ms Halappanavar asked for a medical termination.

This was refused, he says, because the foetal heartbeat was still present and they were told, “this is a Catholic country”.

She spent a further 2½ days “in agony” until the foetal heartbeat stopped.

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:33 AM

Warren DeMontague (46,242 posts)

3. Yeah. Exactly.

Unbelievable, and tragic, and inexcusable in this day and age.

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:27 PM

Gormy Cuss (26,654 posts)

4. It being a Catholic country is no excuse for ignoring septicemia.

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from another article at the link:

Under the Constitution, as interpreted by the Supreme Court in 1992, it is lawful to terminate a pregnancy if it is established “as a matter of probability” that there is a real and substantial risk to the life, as opposed to the health, of the mother.

The Medical Council advises doctors to undertake a full assessment of any risk “in light of the clinical research on this issue”.

According to its guidelines: “In current obstetrical practice, rare complications can arise where therapeutic intervention (including termination of a pregnancy) is required at a stage when, due to extreme immaturity of the baby, there may be little or no hope of the baby surviving.”

“In these exceptional circumstances, it may be necessary to intervene to terminate the pregnancy to protect the life of the mother, while making every effort to preserve the life of the baby.”

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2012/1114/1224326573999.html?via=rel

I hope that a thorough investigation is made. That said, the fact that Ireland is a Catholic country is problematic for many of its residents.

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Response to LadyHawkAZ (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:26 PM

obamanut2012 (9,971 posts)

5. I JUST read this article

It was tweeted by someone I follow. Excellent.

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