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Mon Feb 13, 2012, 05:56 PM

Women's issue - false whatever

First we have false boobs, then the styles move to false height.. with shoes so tall now that there have to be platforms.
Now the new thing is false eyelashes. Not the old kind we had in the 1960's but huge, thick caterpillar things.

Complaining about this makes me seem like an old fart, but since I am... I will.

I haven't succumbed to any of the above except I do have a pair of ankle boots that have a 3 inch heel. I only wear them on special occasions.

Anyway, I see these young women trying for a standard of beauty that is so unreal and think back to my younger days when we fought so hard for a natural look and to be accepted for our real selves. Now it seems gals want to be sex-kittens and they use the excuse that it is "empowering". I call b.s. on that.

Edit post to add: thank god they still reject girdles! horrible things

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Reply Women's issue - false whatever (Original post)
OKNancy Feb 2012 OP
redqueen Feb 2012 #1
OKNancy Feb 2012 #2
redqueen Feb 2012 #3
OKNancy Feb 2012 #11
Texasgal Feb 2012 #4
justiceischeap Feb 2012 #6
La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #7
Texasgal Feb 2012 #9
Texasgal Feb 2012 #8
redqueen Feb 2012 #10
justiceischeap Feb 2012 #12
redqueen Feb 2012 #13
yardwork Feb 2012 #17
La Lioness Priyanka Feb 2012 #5
OKNancy Feb 2012 #14
patrice Feb 2012 #15
OKNancy Feb 2012 #16

Response to OKNancy (Original post)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:24 PM

1. Reject girdles?

I guess you haven't heard of Spanx.

I'm on the fence. I love pretty things, and I love dressing up sometimes. But on the other hand I completely agree with your point about being accepted for your organic self.

I really don't know how to feel about most of it and chalk it up to personal taste, but I hope that all women keep the idea of context in mind, and I do disagree strongly with elective cosmetic surgery, pharmaceuticals for longer lashes, etc.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:32 PM

2. I've heard of spanx.. they are no where near

as restrictive as girdles.

I like nice things and I enjoy makeup and I even color my hair. But I do that to cover flaws, not to look like a sex kitten..lol which would be pretty hard anyway since I am 63. I think in my younger days, I would have been considered pretty.... but
if it takes longer that 15 minutes to get together, then I think it's overkill.

I go along with societal norms. That's the way it is, but at some point I feel like enough is enough.

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Response to OKNancy (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:36 PM

3. Yikes.

I thought Spanx were just a brand name for girdles. Thanks.

"if it takes longer that 15 minutes to get together, then I think it's overkill. "

That's how I see it too, usually. If it's a very special (fancy / high falootin) event I would spend twice that easily though.

I wouldn't even have started coloring my hair if I hadn't started dating a younger man. Now I feel like I'd be conspicuously cougarish if I didn't.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:05 PM

11. LOL - my husband is 4 years younger than me

All's fair in love and war

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Response to OKNancy (Original post)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:36 PM

4. The super high heels concern me.

I love to wear heels and strappy sandals for an evening or an event, but those super, SUPER high heels look like a killer on the back! I cannot imagine trying to walk on pavement in those things!! YIKES!

Now, BRA'S on the other hand... uggg! I'd love them banned personally! LOL!

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Response to Texasgal (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:42 PM

6. I don't understand this style of shoe

They're what I call stripper shoes... yet they're super popular now.

I don't understand the draw of dressing like a stripper, yet more and more women do that these days, it seems. I commute to work and I see women walking to the subway in them... how is that even possible?



I wear crocs, boots (men's if I can find my size) and tennis shoes. Give me more than an inch heel and I'd fall over and my feet would tell me to take a hike (sorry for the bad pun).

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:44 PM

7. they've been cool for decades now.

but only for clubbing and for youngish girls (19-26)... its not supposed to be a daily shoe or anything

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:49 PM

9. But see... your in New York

much hipper dressed than down here I would assume.

Let us know when the fad changes to a lower heel and maybe I'll feel fashionable!

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:45 PM

8. Yeah, I am seeing more and more

of these along with thigh high leather boots with spiky heels. Crazy!

I work as a surgical nurse during the day, so I wear clogs!

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:00 PM

10. Ok I'll just say this... and if it's against the SOP please someone let me know.

IMO this is an example of what many people call the "pornification" of society.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:08 PM

12. I think I heard a siren sound somewhere...

Kidding.

I think that's within the SOP.

Discuss all issues affecting women in the U.S. and around the world.


Edited to add:

It just looks painful. On the ankles, on the bed of the foot, I'd get a charlie horse in the arch of my foot... My feet are getting pained just looking at the photo. I say more power to a woman that can wear those without pain.

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Response to justiceischeap (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:14 PM

13. I LOL'd :)

I was reading recently that women who wear high heels a large percentage of the time are actually shortening their calf muscles, and that it's causing injuries when they switch to flats for exercise or what have you. Alarming stuff, but also possibly alarmist, not sure.

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Response to redqueen (Reply #13)

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 07:22 PM

17. It's true that wearing high heels shortens the calf muscles, actually making the leg look stumpier.

Strapping one's feet into high heels doesn't allow for the natural range of movement required to keep leg muscles healthy. It also tilts one's body in an unnatural way, which causes spinal injury over time. And it's hell on the feet.

I love high heels and used to wear them a lot, but now that I'm middle aged I can't take the pain anymore. I've mostly switched to flats and sensible pumps when I have to dress up.

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Response to OKNancy (Original post)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 06:41 PM

5. i am fine with falsies for the most part. fun eyelashes are fun. sometimes heels are fun.

i just think what is considered "normal" grooming for women (and to some extent men) gets more and more elaborate by the year. if you live in nyc for instance, getting a brazilian is considered part of normal grooming. its the amount of time and money women have too spend to be considered well groomed, that sometimes really surprises me.

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Response to La Lioness Priyanka (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:19 PM

14. I'm so glad I'm not a young woman

I remember back in 1972 when I had my first child how horrified I was when they told me that they would shave my pubes.
The second one in 1984, they didn't.

I guess it is kind of fun to wear stuff to enhance yourself. I'm kind of backtracking now, because I remember what it was like to be young. I still hate those 6 inch heels though. I think they are bad for you!!

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Response to OKNancy (Original post)

Mon Feb 13, 2012, 07:59 PM

15. My mind just can't encompass reacting to false anything on a man with passion.

Generally, I can imagine almost anything, but I draw a blank on how anyone can know some physical feature is artificial and still enjoy it sexually.

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Response to OKNancy (Original post)

Tue Feb 14, 2012, 07:01 PM

16. Hi... I found this

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/25/scientists-look-at-the-dangers-of-high-heels/



A Scientific Look at the Dangers of High Heels

This is a snip from the middle of the article:

All of the women strode multiple times along a 26-foot-long walkway that contained a plate to gauge the forces generated as they walked. The control group covered the walkway 10 times while barefoot. The other women walked barefoot 10 times and in their chosen heels 10 times.

It was obvious, as the scientists had suspected watching the woman during their coffee break, that the women habituated to high heels walked differently from those who usually wore flats, even when the heel wearers went barefoot. But the nature and extent of the differences were surprising. In results published last week in The Journal of Applied Physiology, the scientists found that heel wearers moved with shorter, more forceful strides than the control group, their feet perpetually in a flexed, toes-pointed position. This movement pattern continued even when the women kicked off their heels and walked barefoot. As a result, the fibers in their calf muscles had shortened and they put much greater mechanical strain on their calf muscles than the control group did.

In that control group, the women who rarely wore heels, walking primarily involved stretching and stressing their tendons, especially the Achilles tendon. But in the heel wearers, the walking mostly engaged their muscles.

That biomechanical distinction is important, says Dr. Cronin, who is now a researcher at the University of Jyvaskyla in Finland. “Several studies have shown that optimal muscle-tendon efficiency” while walking “occurs when the muscle stays approximately the same length while the tendon lengthens. When the tendon lengthens, it stores elastic energy and later returns it when the foot pushes off the ground. Tendons are more effective springs than muscles,” he continues. So by stretching and straining their already shortened calf muscles, the heel wearers walk less efficiently with or without heels, he says, requiring more energy to cover the same amount of ground as people in flats and probably causing muscle fatigue.

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