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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 02:00 PM Jun 2014

The Case Against Prop 8 Failed at the Supreme Court. Why Are We Still in Denial About That?

By Mark Joseph Stern

On Aug. 4, 2010, U.S. District Court Judge Vaughn Walker became the first federal judge in the history of the United States to rule that a state-level gay marriage ban violated the U.S. Constitution. His order overturning California’s Proposition 8 and restoring marriage equality was, it later turned out, the last valid ruling on the merits of the case. The trial was a momentous event, a profound investigation into anti-gay animus and its place in the law. Its outcome marked the first domino in what would soon be a cascade of pro-gay-marriage rulings. And the legal theories that stood behind Walker’s ruling would soon be echoed in courtrooms in every state in the union.

The first 75 minutes of HBO’s new documentary The Case Again 8, which premieres tonight, tells the thrilling, emotional, inspiring story of Walker’s trial with passion and clarity. Had the film ended there, it would have been nearly perfect. But of course the film can’t stop there, because the lawsuit didn’t stop there: It hurtled through the appeals process, dogged by questions of standing, for nearly three more years, a process the Supreme Court eventually erased by holding that the case effectively ended the day Walker handed down his ruling.

What is history to make of the Prop 8 case, then, with its messy epilogue and muddled legal impact? That’s the question prompted by The Case Against 8, a question it never quite answers. Ted Olson and David Boies, the odd couple/dream team who argued the case on and off for more than three years, clearly wanted it to become a vehicle that would take down every gay marriage ban on the books. The gay rights groups that supported their quest saw the lawsuit as a way to make amends after failing to defeat Prop 8 in the first place. And the plaintiffs at the heart of the case, the documentary proves, just wanted to get married.

Throughout its runtime, the documentary bounces among these three competing goals without ever landing on one coherent narrative. When the Supreme Court punted on the case, ignoring its merits and expunging everything except Walker’s original ruling, gay rights groups claimed that the justices “restored” marriage equality to California. Olson and Boies insist in the film that this was their goal all along, implying that anything else—say, a ruling that brought gay marriage to all 50 states—would simply be some kind of added bonus. No one admits on camera that the Supreme Court’s narrow decision was disappointing, or anything less than they had hoped for. No one sees it as anything but a triumph.

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The Case Against Prop 8 Failed at the Supreme Court. Why Are We Still in Denial About That? (Original Post) DonViejo Jun 2014 OP
Damn. I miss a lot of good stuff by not having HBO theHandpuppet Jun 2014 #1
I'm watching it tonight! OKNancy Jun 2014 #2
any lawyer will tell you his job is to serve his client dsc Jun 2014 #3

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
2. I'm watching it tonight!
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 08:04 PM
Jun 2014

I know it's not the full story, but I think it will be a good program anyway.

dsc

(52,152 posts)
3. any lawyer will tell you his job is to serve his client
Mon Jun 23, 2014, 10:56 PM
Jun 2014

the lawyers in this case did that. While the decision doesn't help the rest of us it did, combined with Winsor restore marriage to his clients, which is a win.

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