Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
LGBT
Related: About this forumThe Vatican Hates Gays
http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/vatican-hates-gaysIn light of stunning, sweeping gains for marriage equality not just in last weeks United States elections but in France and Spain, it was inevitable that the men in long dresses and funny hats would get their dander up. But whats most laughably ridiculous about the Vaticans latest outburst against LGBT rights is that it just cant let go of one of the oldest, dumbest arguments against them in the world.
In an editorial this weekend, Vatican chief spokesman Father Federico Lombardi the guy who thinks the Churchs widespread sexual abuse crisis needs to be viewed within, Im not even kidding, the more general context of secularization affirmed that monogamous marriage between a man and woman is an achievement of civilization. And then he added, If not, why not contemplate also freely chosen polygamy and, of course, not to discriminate, polyandry? Why not? If two men can pledge their love in a legally recognized union, whos to stop a woman from marrying a wedge of cheese, right? I mean, where does it end?
Father Lombardi isnt the first person with a head full of faulty logic to trot out the This slope! Its just so darn slippery! argument, of course. Last month, U.S. Rep. Judy Biggert declared, when pressed about same-sex unions on a campaign stop, You know, we dont have polygamy and bigamy and all of these things in, in the federal government. Its the states that take care of that. She lost the election, by the way.
And why limit the comparing same-sex unions to polygamy? Why not any crazy-ass combination at all? In September, Australian senator Cory Bernardi resigned after remarking, The next step, quite frankly, is having three people or four people that love each other being able to enter into a permanent union endorsed by society or any other type of relationship There are even some creepy people out there [who] say it is OK to have consensual sexual relations between humans and animals. Will that be a future step? In the future, will we say: These two creatures love each other, and maybe they should be able to be joined in a union? I think that these things are the next step. And last year, in a piece called If same-sex marriage, why not polygamy? in the American Conservative, Rod Dreher facetiously argued, Why, for example, should a brother and sister who have agreed to undergo sterilization as a condition of their marital union be denied the right to marry, if that is their wish? That right there is the template for How These People Think. Civil rights? Whats next? Dogs and cats, living together! Mass hysteria!
InfoView thread info, including edit history
TrashPut this thread in your Trash Can (My DU » Trash Can)
BookmarkAdd this thread to your Bookmarks (My DU » Bookmarks)
3 replies, 953 views
ShareGet links to this post and/or share on social media
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
ReplyReply to this post
EditCannot edit other people's posts
Rec (1)
ReplyReply to this post
3 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
The Vatican Hates Gays (Original Post)
xchrom
Nov 2012
OP
Fearless
(18,421 posts)1. The feeling is mutual I'm sure.
MFM008
(19,782 posts)2. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
on the vatican.
joeybee12
(56,177 posts)3. What else do you expect from fascists?
knr