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Related: About this forumI need you're opinion.
And if any of you are offended I apologize right now.
I have a couple that has spent two holidays with us and this will be the third one. They are gay but very conservative in action and manner.
Last year I gave my little brother (Who is also gay) the movie On Harvey Milk and he called me up and said he really enjoyed learning more about the gay community and civic hero's.
so I'm thinking about getting two copies of "Angels in America" and Harvey Feinsteins "Torch song trilogy" For this couple and my Brother for Christmas. Do you think it will offend the couple ????I don't want them to feel like i'm trying to label them or ...????? Lock them into ????? I really love them and I DON"T want to hurt or offend them in ANY way. Please you're feed back would be most welcome.
qb
(5,924 posts)There is also a chance they've already seen them.
I would prefer an article of clothing, an item for my house, or other gift not related to my sexual orientation, that was chosen based on what the giver had learned about my tastes and sense of style.
Howler
(4,225 posts)I try to give out at least one movie to each of my christmas people too. Last year it was the comedian Titus.This year I'd thought I'd get a little political considering Tim is a republican and I thought "Angels in America" has a very lucid counter point to republicanism as well as social commentary.
See I kinda felt exactly what you said here qb
"just because we're gay doesn't mean we like gay movies."
And it could be percieved as a somewhat bigoted over compensation or even spot lighting something thats really none of my business (Which is not my intent) but ....just sayin it's... delicate.
Thank you qb.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Personally i like creature features ill send you my details later
Howler
(4,225 posts)I myself love Vampires!
William769
(55,124 posts)You could ask in passing what they think about the two (Christmas is still a little ways off).
You know them the best. I myself would enjoy receiving these two as gifts (but thats just me). As long as other gifts are involved, I would think this is a non issue.
coming here and asking the question just goes to show how much you do care them and want to be conscious of their feelings. Good for you!
Howler
(4,225 posts)This is the season to catch the really good sales and beat the crowds so you can throughly enjoy it. Besides I keep my eye peeled for X-Mas presents all year long. snort! (I'm one of THOSE people.) My husband can't count it in my X-mas budget if I bought it in July! LOL!
I could do that, just ask Tim if he has seen those flicks...He's at work Sunday. Thanks William ...I'll do that.
I'm definitely going to give them to my little brother . I was also thinking of "running with scissors" but the main character's first sexual experience was a brutal rape and he didn't realize it because that baby was so young.So I'm torn with that one.Though my brother is middle aged and probably knows about sexual politics. ((((SHIVER)))) there just are some details a sister just doesn't really want to know about a brother!!! LOL!
Thank you William769 for you're advice and encouragement.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)as a gay couple? If so, I don't see how that could offend them. To the contrary...
Howler
(4,225 posts)It took Tim a couple of months to come out to me after we meant and another month before I got to meet Brian (His other half).
I knew already but you let people unfold at their own speed.
To do anything else I feel is an invasion of privacy.
I have other gay friends that are out and flaming that are very close but Tim and Brian as I said are very conservative in dress and manner so I find myself being extra careful to not tread on their feelings or take anything for granted.
Thank you closeupready.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Some other good, if older, films they might appreciate: 'Wild Reeds', a French film from the 90's; 'Longtime Companion'; and more recent, 'Weekend', from the UK.
Cheers!
Howler
(4,225 posts)I haven't even seen those three flicks!!! SWEEEETTTTT!
Thank you so much closeupready!!! I will most definitely check those movies out!
Jerry_Pritikin
(1 post)I would like to recommend a great website www.thecastro.net/ My stories on that site is
www.thecastro.net/street/memoriespage/pritikin/pritikin.html
and my blog contains stories of that era and many of my photographs including Harvey Milk.
www.jerrypritikin.blogspot.com
Cheers,
Jerry
Howler
(4,225 posts)Uncle Donalds house! YAY!!! I will definitely check these out this weekend. Thank you!
WOW! You have been busy its a feast!!!!
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tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Thanks for sharing that Jerry, thank you so very much.
loli phabay
(5,580 posts)Not my kind of thing. Movies are very subjective they might prefer shrek or star wars i would try to get something like a gift card or mayby something that you know they like ie whiskey or wine.
Howler
(4,225 posts)A very viable option too loli phabay.
Thanks.
nightscanner59
(802 posts)I was about to wring my friend's neck for bringing home Longtime Companion after I'd lost the love of my life to AIDS. Can I suggest if you want to go with gay themed movie gifts, try Queer Duck. It's hilarious and likely wouldn't offend any but the most homophobic.
Howler
(4,225 posts)You make a really good point.Perhaps giving out sad flicks aren't the way to go... after all it might be better to celebrate the holidays with laughter instead of tears.
I will check out Queer Duck! Thank you much for the suggestion!
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)nightscanner59
(802 posts)Although I've only seen them in my dreams.
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)nightscanner59
(802 posts)disturb me about 450,000,000 times more than visitations. Visits from those passed on leave me peaceful with life.
Nightmares about 450,000,000 gallons a day of toxic sludge flowing from the GP plant leave me violently turning over in bed.
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)abate. I grew up near a plant like that, and they used to brag about what clean and safe operations they ran ... yet all of the fish in the river died over the years, there were always strange smells in the air, and one could not even go into the river water. Yet, they persisted in the same bullshit until finally some years ago the EPA cracked down on them and they were named one of the top polluters.
Howler
(4,225 posts)I think that conversations should be allowed to flow and change where they want to go.
Howler
(4,225 posts)We live in Dayton Ohio and People that live and work out on the base, and base houseing won't drink the water out there because its riddled with...?????? Gawd knows what, and our yard it surrounded by electrical wires here in the city proper.
Howler
(4,225 posts)you are VERY intuitive.
Howler
(4,225 posts)I post over in ASAH alot and I truely believe those are very real visitations from friends and loved ones that have passed on. I really feel these are way more then just dreams.You my friend are gifted.
Howler
(4,225 posts)None of us came through totally unscathed by Aids. We lost so many beautiful people to the ravages of this hideous disease.
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)to watch gay-themed movies (my soulmate passed 6 years ago after a 27 year relationship), I would heartily recommend "Latter Days" which I've watched on the LOGO channel three times now. It's such a beautiful movie. And, I must admit, having the young man from 3rd Rock doesn't hurt. Damn, he has grown into a fine looking man.
Howler
(4,225 posts)Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 02:43 PM - Edit history (1)
I've been with my soulmate for 20 years now and I can't even begin to wrap my head around loseing him.
Thank you I will most definitely check out "Latter Days".
GodlessBiker
(6,314 posts)The gift is a reflection of what you think is important as well as what they might find interesting.
And when you say they are conservative in action and manner, do you mean they are closeted and rarely use the word "gay' or otherwise acknowledge to others that they are gay? Either way, it doesn't matter. This is a private gift between you and them. They may choose not to view the movies.
Howler
(4,225 posts)Tim refurbishes Historical Houses and Brian is a store manager at Ace Hardwear.
They are both Moderate Republican, Tim wears suits frquently and when they are both off of work they wear Jeans and checked shirts.
They are not closested....But until Tim mentioned Brian to me there was absolutely no discussian of "Gay" anything even though I knew he was..Still hasnt been. But I understand that. Hell we are all middle aged and I don't talk about being hetro or sex either. LOL!
If you didnt know them and you ran into them at a party (Or christmas dinner) you would have no reason to think that they were a couple. You would think they were friends.No physical displays of affection publicly. maybe its from all the shit they weathered growing up It was even worse then and it still can be really bad now.They are just very conservative in manner,dress,and political.
Now don't get me wrong Tim has a very wicked sense of humor and they are both very warm and loving people...I just love the shit out of both of them. After all I don't have ANY other republican "friends" LOL! I crossed that very wide rubicon just for them.snort.
If I get any feedback from them on these movies and its a positive one I will be turning them onto all the sugestions I've gotten here as well as watching these flicks myself. Has for my little brother! Its as good as done! I want him to have movies that he can self identify with.So I'm so very grateful to each and every one who has offered movie sugestions here and any books or plays would be most welcome too.
Ahhhhh We have come along way from just Gore Vidal and Tennesee williams writing, and commentary about being gay in todays society.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)along with the film versions. Both are part of our American theatrical canon and of course in the gay specific literature of the world. They should be seen, and they should be read. For a young person, these plays can be great learning tools. Angels in particular has enormous scope. Torch Song has enormous loving heart and so much courage. Firestien and Kushner have much to teach a young person.
Howler
(4,225 posts)Giving the published plays as well has the movies!!! Oh Snap!!!! Thank You!!!!!! Now I'm Jazzed!
Bohunk68
(1,364 posts)Oh,, yes. Saw that on the LOGO channel also. Very, very good. Had forgotten about it. Maybe if they run it again, I can watch the series. So tired of unwed teenage mothers and their boyfriend and Buffy the Vampire thing. And that 5 gays and i gal, yuck.
Howler
(4,225 posts)it hits every possible level of expression! And the Acting is superb.
I love it when LOGO runs "Absolutely Fabulous" Those two women crack me up.
pinto
(106,886 posts)They'll most likely take the gifts in the spirit intended. And, both are great pieces, fwiw.
(aside) Maurice is worth a look.
Maurice (1987)
E.M. Forster started writing Maurice, the novel upon which this movie is based, in 1913. He showed it to friends, but decided not to publish it he was certain the gay subject matter, and its happy ending, would make it far too controversial.
Fortunately, the story of the novel itself has a happy ending too, as it was published posthumously in 1971, and then turned into this stunning 1987 movie adaptation a labor of love from the gay filmmaking duo of Ismail Merchant and James Ivory, co-starring Hugh Grant and Rupert Graves (at his most adorable). But even in 1987, the movie was decades ahead of its time and didnt receive nearly the acclaim it deserved, so were thrilled to be able to feature it here.
http://www.afterelton.com/movies/2009/9/greatest-gay-movies?page=0%2C2
Howler
(4,225 posts)This is another one I can give the book and the movie too! Nice very nice. I love Rupert graves and Hugh Grant too!!!!
pinto
(106,886 posts)And sometimes it's really interesting to see how one got represented in the other.