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Sun Jul 22, 2012, 08:52 AM

 

How come the 9/11 group on the old DU was so much more active?

Lots of daily topics, tons of posts. With the new DU, it was named a much better and broader name with Creative Speculation. So what happened?

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Reply How come the 9/11 group on the old DU was so much more active? (Original post)
Ter Jul 2012 OP
kickysnana Jul 2012 #1
frogmarch Jul 2012 #2
MrMickeysMom Jul 2012 #3
zappaman Jul 2012 #7
MrMickeysMom Jul 2012 #9
truebrit71 Sep 2012 #23
zappaman Sep 2012 #25
truebrit71 Sep 2012 #26
zappaman Sep 2012 #27
truebrit71 Sep 2012 #28
mallard Nov 2012 #31
Liberal_Dog Jul 2012 #4
SidDithers Jul 2012 #5
jberryhill Jul 2012 #6
LARED Jul 2012 #8
hack89 Jul 2012 #10
Harry Back Jul 2012 #13
jberryhill Sep 2012 #22
Codeine Jul 2012 #11
zappaman Jul 2012 #12
LARED Jul 2012 #14
Ter Jul 2012 #15
zappaman Aug 2012 #18
noise Aug 2012 #16
CJCRANE Aug 2012 #17
revenger Aug 2012 #19
apocalypsehow Aug 2012 #20
ZombieHorde Aug 2012 #21
Iggo Sep 2012 #24
MercutioATC Sep 2012 #29
AZCat Sep 2012 #30
Democracyinkind Dec 2012 #32

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Mon Jul 23, 2012, 01:22 PM

2. Maybe many who posted in the 9/11 group

at old DU didn't come over to new DU. Also, I know there were some who objected to anything but 9/11 theories being posted in the 9/11 group, so maybe that has something to do with it too. To some 9/11 theorists, Creative Speculation might seem too inclusive.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 10:57 PM

3. I have my theories...

The mod or mods "controlled" the 911 thread right the hell out of existence, because they couldn't stand the heat.

That is all.

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Response to MrMickeysMom (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 01:28 PM

7. Bwhahahahahahahahaaha!

Tell us how active the truth movement is these days in real life.
Please....I need more laughs.

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Response to zappaman (Reply #7)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 09:56 PM

9. For a good laugh...see post #7

...for everything else... there's MasterCard

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Response to zappaman (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 02:02 PM

23. Why don't you fuck off?

You have NOTHING to add to ANY of these discussions but sneering derision....take your bullying ass somewhere else why don't you?

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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #23)

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 04:13 AM

25. Aww.....someone get their wittle feelings hurt?

I will treat you and the rest of the truthers exactly as they deserve.
Sneering derision will work fine.
Come back with some facts, Jack!
In the meantime...

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Response to zappaman (Reply #25)

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 09:28 AM

26. Didn't hurt my feelings mate...but this sure revealed your character..or lack therof..

...c'mon champ, one more parting shot before I put your willfully ignorant ass on ignore...

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Response to truebrit71 (Reply #26)

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 02:13 PM

27. Don't put me on ignore!

I'm paid to coverup 9/11 by going on an internet forum and telling you that you are full of steaming bullshit.
But, I might one day turn on my masters and reveal the truth.
You wouldn't want to miss that would you?

Truthers are hilarious, I'll give you that mate!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #27)

Fri Sep 14, 2012, 02:28 PM

28. Cheers!!

Welcome to ignore!!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #25)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:52 PM

31. you represent ...

... is a brutal post 9/11 reality, pretty much disconcerned with the effrects of ensuing wars, but right there to support the lies that made war happen. It's a sham you find worth fighting for because of undisclosed loyalties. You don't really debate but rely primarily in insults and pleasure taken in frustrating valid efforts to address the facts.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 01:13 PM

4. My Theory

Most of the 9-11 issues have been talked about, hashed and rehashed over and over again.

We have all made up our minds and there doesn't seem to be much point in discussing the same issues into infinity.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Wed Jul 25, 2012, 02:03 PM

5. I think it's because Hosts at DU3 can't move threads like mods did at DU2...

probably half of the threads in 9/11 at DU2 were started in GD and moved to the dungeon.

Sid

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Response to SidDithers (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:00 AM

6. That's part of it

There was just a "Colorado Shooter CIA Mind Control, blah, blah" thread over in Video & Multimedia.

It was better when they could be moved somewhere they belong. I wasn't finished with that turd of a thread.

The other part of it is that the general "don't go into crazytown" rule is more uniformly applied across DU, so we don't have as much crazytown stuff.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 06:55 PM

8. Crazytown - dilbert style

 

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Fri Jul 27, 2012, 01:07 PM

10. Chem trails got some old DU2 posters tombstoned here.

there seems to be much less tolerance for certain CT nuttery then there used to be.

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Response to hack89 (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 12:20 AM

13. Some things I have noticed

 

I am not seeing any chemtrails this summer and now there is a drought.
This forum was damn hard to find.

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Response to Harry Back (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 4, 2012, 05:59 PM

22. You aren't seeing chemtrails, and there is a drought?


Wow... it would almost seem as if chemtrails had something to do with atmospheric water vapor.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 01:40 PM

11. A few of the whakadoodliest posters got PPR'd.

Took some of the wind out of the 9-11 Crazywhacko Brigade's sails.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Sun Jul 29, 2012, 06:42 PM

12. I miss Spooked

He always had a way of heating up the 9/11 forum!

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Response to zappaman (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:33 PM

14. Whenever the old forum started to get boring, Spooked

 

would post a doozy. He was (is?) one of a kind

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Response to zappaman (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 09:31 PM

15. Yeah, what happened to him?

 

He also had a nemesis who always posted there, with Teddy Kennedy in his avatar. His name was SDSour-something.

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Response to Ter (Reply #15)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 06:51 PM

18. I think he supported Ron Paul and got tombstoned.

But I may be wrong...

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:21 AM

16. Torture was proven to be a good faith effort

to protect the homeland. 60 Minutes put Soufan's conspiracy garbage to bed with amazing (dare I say breathtaking) reporting not seen in these parts since the dawn of humanity.

The 9/11 authoritarians were right. There is nothing to question. All the secrecy is justified for reasons of national security.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:40 PM

17. The Teabaggers took over the conspiracy theory business

and created their own entirely new and even less believable conspiracy theories.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Fri Aug 3, 2012, 01:40 PM

19. Spam deleted by zappaman (MIR Team)

 

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Thu Aug 23, 2012, 02:54 PM

20. The TOS changed, and for the better! The lunatic talk that was

permitted in the old forum on DU2 simply was no longer allowed, per the revised TOS, once DU3 rolled out. In fact, the welcome change for very limited tolerance for the standard nutty CT'er bullshit we had to put up with on DU2 is referenced twice in the DU3 TOS:

Don't be a wingnut (right-wing or extreme-fringe).
Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.
- emphasis added.

Don't go overboard with the crazy talk.
Democratic Underground is not intended to be a platform for kooks and crackpots peddling paranoid fantasies with little or no basis in fact. To accommodate our more imaginative members we tolerate some limited discussion of so-called "conspiracy theories" under the following circumstances: First, those discussions are not permitted in our heavily-trafficked Main forums; and second, those discussions cannot stray too far into Crazyland (eg: chemtrails, black helicopters, 9/11 death rays or holograms, the "New World Order," the Bilderbergers, the Illuminati, the Trilateral Commission, the Freemasons, alien abduction, Bigfoot, and the like). In addition, please be aware that many conspiracy theories have roots in racism and anti-semitism, and Democratic Underground has zero tolerance for bigoted hate speech. In short, you take your chances.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=termsofservice

What I noticed happening not long after DU3 rolled out, is that the not-so-bright among the regular CT'er crowd ignored the new TOS and the fair warnings given, and kept right on with their fanatical, lunatic speculations. PPR's soon followed, and not a moment too soon. The more perceptive among them simply avoid "Creative Speculation," knowing full well that if they indulged their desire to pontificate on chemtrails and moonbeams and the like, they would be shown the proverbial door. I can think of several prolific CT posters who haven't been seen down here in months, and I suspect for those very reasons.

One welcome side-benefit of all of this is we see less of the deliberate rule-breaking that CT'ers frequently engaged in on DU2 just because they could with few repercussions as regards General Discussion.

On DU2, you would frequently see CT'ers brazenly post obvious conspiracy theory material in GD knowing full well (a) they were breaking the rules and (b) that it would eventually get moved to the 911 forum. They did this because they wanted at least a portion of the much larger audience in GD to follow them down into the 911 dungeon to comment on their goofy speculations, especially on a busy news day when the mods were backed up with more pressing alerts regarding more serious rules violations.

I once asked a CT'er why, knowing the rules against doing so, she simply went right ahead and did it anyway - and she basically told me that she did it because she could, and that it was far more important that people knew about the loony conspiracy theory she was peddling than following some rules on a discussion board. In other words, she felt herself above the rules, as the vast majority of CT'ers do: their "cause" is just "too important" to waste time observing the proprieties, you see.

Now, with the new DU3 TOS, your average CT'er is well aware that it is likely they will simply be banned outright for posting CT'er bullshit in GD, as opposed to the thread simply being moved down here with no repercussions whatsoever. That has been a welcome respite to what went on at DU2, where we seemed to get a spurt of CT'er bullshit on the main pages at least once every couple of weeks or so, especially if some natural disaster, 911/JFK anniversary, or spy-related story was dominating the news cycle.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Mon Aug 27, 2012, 05:56 PM

21. The CIA, with the help of RACD (Radical Anarchist Commie Druids), have been silencing

the CT board in order to appease the Mexican Illuminati.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Thu Sep 13, 2012, 11:49 PM

24. The best of the shit-flingers from that forum have left us.

There was a guy over there that would post the best CT stuff. Can't remember his name, but SDuderstadt fought him tooth and nail in just about every one of those threads. There was hologram airplane stuff, hologram jumper stuff, alien moonbase stuff, all kindsa cool shit. Those threads were great to jump in on or just to read, but I think both of those vatos are gone now.

EDIT: I just read upthread. Spooked was the other guy.

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Response to Iggo (Reply #24)

Wed Sep 19, 2012, 07:46 PM

29. Abe Linkman was a classic oldtimer on the old 9/11 Forum.

 

You could show him three kinds of documentation to disprove his theory and he's just claim that everybody was in on the conspiracy.

I kinda miss Abe...

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Response to MercutioATC (Reply #29)

Sat Sep 22, 2012, 01:54 AM

30. Then there was that Christophera guy...

The one who thought the towers had c4 coated rebar in a concrete core. I think he's been banned from every 9/11-related discussion forum on the internet.

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Response to Ter (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 06:51 AM

32. Change of TOS. Loss of 9/11 twooth enthusiasm on the left.

Today, conspiracy theories, or rather conspiracy culture, is again almost exclusively something that comes from the right.

While I believe that some pertinent questions regarding 9/11 should still be answered (Richard Blee, for god's sake...), I do not miss the 9/11 CT woo. Most of it was too stupid to even answer - although, in all honesty, I must admit that most of my serious research into this topic was piqued by the old DU2 forum... But I'm talking the golden age of 9/11 twooth here.. 2003/2004.. Back when the holo-madness /mashup crazyness began.. What was it called.. YDK2 ..something like that.. the long haired german crazy guy vs. the alex jones types.. Ah.. Miss the golden times...

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