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Thu May 3, 2012, 01:44 PM

US Army Re-education camps

A friend of mine just posted (as he usually does) a ridiculous article from InfoWars (http://www.infowars.com/leaked-u-s-army-document-outlines-plan-for-re-education-camps-in-america/) and it's pissing me off to no end. I'm trying to find stuff to continuously disprove this drivel, and I'm probably wasting my time. Anyone able to help on this particular "story"?

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Lawlbringer May 2012 OP
mknblb May 2012 #1
Lawlbringer May 2012 #2
1caractere May 2012 #6
Floxbu May 2012 #9
Morning Dew May 2012 #10
jberryhill May 2012 #13
Morning Dew May 2012 #14
uppityperson May 2012 #17
little elvis Jun 2012 #28
redqueen May 2012 #11
severinslade May 2012 #3
AquilamCalvi May 2012 #4
bobmarleymon May 2012 #5
Floxbu May 2012 #7
Floxbu May 2012 #8
jberryhill May 2012 #12
Bolo Boffin May 2012 #19
jberryhill May 2012 #20
zappaman May 2012 #21
Burticus May 2012 #15
mrwilliam May 2012 #16
Shagman May 2012 #18
MDarleneI May 2012 #22
Shagman Jun 2012 #23
MadrasT Jun 2012 #24
Lawlbringer Jun 2012 #25
NoPasaran Jun 2012 #26
Lawlbringer Jun 2012 #27

Response to Lawlbringer (Original post)

Thu May 3, 2012, 07:18 PM

1. Chicken Little



It certainly doesn't make it any easier to swallow, but the government has been making these "worst case scenario" plans for years, and most likely all the way back to the revolutionary war. When they actually set one of these up, I'll be right there with your friend breaking down walls freeing citizen prisoners.

I bet the government has documents detailing how to defend against alien invasion, and an uprising of the apes, but it doesn't mean that aliens are landing, or the government is going to start eradicating primates. Has anyone actually found a camp, or a proposed camp? Not to my knowledge, and I am sure that if there were, more sites than rt, and infowars would be carrying some kind of commentary on it.

I am healthily skeptical about our government's intentions, but if this was actually a plan they intended to carry out, this document would never see the light of day.

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Response to mknblb (Reply #1)

Thu May 3, 2012, 08:41 PM

2. Perfectly said.

Bravo. I really couldn't have put it any better.

Thanks.

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Response to Floxbu (Reply #9)

Mon May 7, 2012, 02:46 AM

10. Who is going to cart you off? And for what, exactly?

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Response to Morning Dew (Reply #10)

Mon May 7, 2012, 02:07 PM

13. The MIRT, for trolling

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #13)

Mon May 7, 2012, 03:15 PM

14. LOL - That's exactly what happened - Now he's in the MIRE

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Response to Morning Dew (Reply #14)

Tue May 8, 2012, 11:41 AM

17. Hah!

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Response to mknblb (Reply #1)

Mon May 7, 2012, 12:09 PM

11. Yes, there are detailed plans outlining a response to alien invasion.

It never hurts to be prepared, but no one is panicked about the imminent danger of such an occurrence.

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Sat May 5, 2012, 01:10 PM

5. Investigation Complete!

 

Lawlbringer,

Did you read the document? I didn't think so. You can read it here:
http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf

If you had you would have seen that the subject of these Re-Education Camps is us; American Citizen's. You can read a Rebuttal to the nay sayers, such as yourself, by going to: http://www.prisonplanet.com/yes-the-re-education-camp-manual-does-apply-domestically-to-u-s-citizens.html

Alternatively, if you don't want to read either the article or the document itself, you can read it below:

1.) Page 56 makes it clear that detention camps will have PSYOP teams whose responsibility will be to use “indoctrination programs to reduce or remove antagonistic attitudes,” as well as targeting “political activists” with such indoctrination programs to provide “understanding and appreciation of U.S. policies and actions.”

2.) Throughout the manual there are scores of references to how the U.S. Army would work together with the DHS, ICE and FEMA (page 24) to implement the policies “within U.S. territory” as part of “civil support operations” in the aftermath of “man-made disasters, accidents, terrorist attacks and incidents in the U.S. and its territories.” (page 38).

3.) “The handling of DCs (displaced citizens) is also a mission that may be performed in support of disaster relief or other emergencies within the United States or U.S. territories during civil support operations,” states page 33. Page 56 also states that it is the responsibility of the PSYOP officer to “control detainee and DC populations during emergencies.”

4.) “Resettlement conducted as a part of civil support operations will always be conducted in support of another lead agency (Federal Emergency Management Agency, Department of Homeland Security)” states page 37.

5.) All these passages make it clear that the policies outlined on page 56 are also applicable within U.S. territory as part of “civil support operations” conducted in partnership with domestic federal agencies like the DHS and ICE. The U.S. Immigration authorities have no role in detaining prisoners in Afghanistan and Iraq and neither do other U.S. agencies also listed in the document such as the Public Health Service (page 224).

6.) The document also contains numerous references to U.S. citizens (notably pages 13, 41). Page 13 notes how “U.S. citizens will be confined separately from detainees,” meaning they will be separated from foreign prisoners in the camps

7.) On page 146 of the manual, we learn how prisoners in the camps are to be identified. “The prisoner’s last name, first name, and middle initial are placed on the first line of a name board, and the prisoner’s social security number is placed on the second line.”

Last time I checked, the United States Social Security Administration was not responsible for handing out social security numbers to people in Afghanistan or Iraq.

8.) On page 193 of the document, we learn that the policies outlined in the manual can be applied domestically. The language makes it clear that so long as the President passes an executive order to nullify Posse Comitatus, the law that forbids the military from engaging in domestic law enforcement, the policies “may be performed as domestic civil support operations.” The manual states, “These operations may be performed as domestic civil support operations,” and adds that “The authority to approve resettlement such operations within U.S. territories,” would require a “special exception” to The Posse Comitatus Act, which can be obtained via “the President invoking his executive authority.”



These examples are just a handful of a plethora contained in the 326 page ‘Internment and Resettlement’ document which prove that the policies in the manual apply not only to foreign prisoners abroad, but also to American citizens within the United States.

On top of this, we have the 2009 story about how the National Guard posted a number of job listings looking for “Internment/Resettlement Specialists” to work in “civilian internee camps” within the United States.
See: http://publicintelligence.net/national-guard-looking-for-internmentresettlement-specialists

I hope this helps you.

Sincerely,
Bob

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Response to Lawlbringer (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2012, 02:32 AM

7. Let's Welcome the Tyranny!!

 

Hey skippy, Scotty won't be able to beam you up on this one... Why don't you just read the DOD document, if you have enough brainpower...

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Response to Lawlbringer (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2012, 02:36 AM

8. Hiding posts

 

Oh I see, when the facts are too inconvenient, ''juries'' vote to censor posts by hiding them. How tolerant and ''liberal'' of you guys... HA!!!

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Response to Lawlbringer (Original post)

Mon May 7, 2012, 02:07 PM

12. Next!

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #12)

Fri May 25, 2012, 12:51 AM

19. I work night shift, so I missed this whole thing! n/t

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Response to Bolo Boffin (Reply #19)

Fri May 25, 2012, 01:51 AM

20. Well, Jesus, Bolo, this thread is stacking em up like cordwood

We need a good chemtrail thread in here.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #20)

Fri May 25, 2012, 05:36 PM

21. WOW!

This thread really did pull them out of the woodwork, eh!

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Tue May 8, 2012, 12:04 PM

18. Paranoid Fantasy

For years I've thought that conservatives have no imagination, but that's not strictly true. When their paranoia kicks in, they start to make up stuff based on the sketchiest of notions.

Like most pipe dreams, it falls apart when you start asking questions. How exactly do they decide who needs to be re-educated? How do they keep these people quiet after they've "graduated"? How is FEMA related to the topic at all, apart from having some broad but very specifically applicable powers?

On the other hand, there are doomsday scenarios aplenty. The federal government actually built an underground installation to shelter the top brass in case of nuclear attack. If it looks like the Occupy movement is getting some traction, what would dishearten them more than having key people disappear, then come back after drinking the koolaid in these camps?

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Response to Lawlbringer (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2012, 09:28 PM

22. How to help some one think.

I remember, under W, the similar "camps" stories circulated in the ether. Then it was 'reported' the camps were placed near airports under the guise of isolating "Bird Flu" victims upon entry into U.S. But, don't be fooled, they were really internment camps to house critics.

I think we can engage some people intellectually. Ask questions, such as, how implementation of such a "plan" might be carried out. Hopefully, you'll get to a point when the light goes on & your friend says, "I never thought of it that way, you may be right."

Ok, I'm a dreamer.

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Response to Lawlbringer (Original post)

Tue Jun 5, 2012, 01:22 PM

23. Not so far fetched ...

only not the way you think.

Reuters

Louisiana is privatizing its entire school system. An entire generation may grow up in Catholic schools. Talk about re-education.

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Response to Lawlbringer (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 04:54 PM

24. Hmmm.

Now I know, if I want to bait trolls, post about FEMA camps.

(files away for future reference)

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Response to MadrasT (Reply #24)

Mon Jun 11, 2012, 05:00 PM

25. LOL

Wasn't my intention to do so, but it seems people just don't like to have discussions about things like this without spewing insults and obscenities.

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Response to Lawlbringer (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2012, 09:28 PM

26. Are these the same re-education camps

Are these the same re-education camps as the camps that Halliburton was building for Bush to lock up dissidents ten years ago? And were those the same camps that Clinton was building for when he declared martial law? If so, how long does it take to string up some barbed wire and throw together some barracks and guard towers? Talk about government inefficiency!

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Response to NoPasaran (Reply #26)

Wed Jun 13, 2012, 10:28 AM

27. I think this is the snarky answer I've been looking for.

Thanks!

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