Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:11 AM
Jefferson23 (10,460 posts)
Netanyahu: Israel soon to require national service for Israeli Arabs
PM speaks to anti-Tal Law protesters and promises a more equal enlistment law, but does not mention the ultra-Orthodox; PM says question of early elections in Israel to soon be clarified.
By Barak Ravid Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Sunday that he intends on setting into motion a new law that would include mandatory civilian national service for Israeli Arabs. The statement came after Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman threatened on Saturday that a vote on a replacement to the Tal Law, which allows full-time yeshiva students to defer national service, would decide the date of Israel's elections. Lieberman advocated for a mandatory service law that would require the enlistment of the ultra-Orthodox, Israeli Arabs and all other Israeli citizens. He warned that his Yisrael Beiteinu party had exhausted its obligations to Netanyahu's coalition. in full: http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/netanyahu-israel-soon-to-require-national-service-for-israeli-arabs-1.427078
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9 replies, 1009 views
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| Jefferson23 | Apr 2012 | OP | |
| oberliner | Apr 2012 | #1 | |
| Jefferson23 | Apr 2012 | #2 | |
| oberliner | Apr 2012 | #3 | |
| azurnoir | Apr 2012 | #5 | |
| oberliner | Apr 2012 | #6 | |
| azurnoir | Apr 2012 | #4 | |
| Jefferson23 | Apr 2012 | #7 | |
| oberliner | Apr 2012 | #8 | |
| Jefferson23 | Apr 2012 | #9 |
Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:18 AM
oberliner (22,142 posts)
1. What's your position on this?
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Where do you stand on the Tal Law?
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Response to oberliner (Reply #1)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 12:23 PM
Jefferson23 (10,460 posts)
2. I'm not a citizen of Israel, if I were, I would not support mandatory service for anyone. n/t
Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #2)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:21 PM
oberliner (22,142 posts)
3. So you have no opinion on this debate?
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Or do you feel Netanyahu is in the wrong here?
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Response to oberliner (Reply #3)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:15 PM
azurnoir (26,657 posts)
5. what do you think of this?
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Last edited Sun Apr 29, 2012, 05:25 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1) are you for Israeli Arabs being required to do at least civil service?
eta as to the Tal Law I would think that everyone should be required to do at least civil service and under that heading perhaps Yeshiva study could seen as service preserving Israel's Jewish heritage, could be a compromise of sorts |
Response to azurnoir (Reply #5)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 06:14 PM
oberliner (22,142 posts)
6. I didn't post this article
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I'd like the person who posted the article to express their opinion on the subject, if they have one, instead of evading the question altogether.
Then, and only then, would I consider sharing mine. |
Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 04:52 PM
azurnoir (26,657 posts)
4. I would be for every Israeli having to do at least manditory civil service or
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none having to do it that said there should be a choice open to all between military and civil service with the benefits of doing either the same, that being said there is a question will Israeli Jews accept it or how well will it be accepted if Israeli Arabs start choosing military service over civil service in large numbers?
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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)
Sun Apr 29, 2012, 08:35 PM
Jefferson23 (10,460 posts)
7. New conscription bill
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Meanwhile, Defense Minister Ehud Barak is planning to submit a conscription bill which will require haredim to perform some sort of national service for one year. Independence faction chairman MK Einat Wilf is set to submit a similar bill to the Ministerial Committee on Legislative Affairs.
Barak's bill aims to replace the Tal Law and make the IDF the sole authority on army enlistment. All those who are not recruited will be referred to national/civil service for one year. According to the bill, the IDF will be able to choose who to recruit, and the defense minister will issue exemptions. The civil service head will be able to exempt no more than 10% of eligible applicants – 400 per year. http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4222240,00.html |
Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #7)
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 06:55 AM
oberliner (22,142 posts)
8. For someone who has no position on this issue, you sure seem keen on posting about it!
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I would ask your opinion of Barak's proposal here, but, seeing as you are not an Israel citizen, I guess it wouldn't matter?
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Response to Jefferson23 (Original post)
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 02:33 PM
Jefferson23 (10,460 posts)
9. Netanyahu calls for military, national service for religious Jews, Arabs
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JERUSALEM, April 29 (Xinhua) -- Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu on Sunday called for changing an exemption law which allows yeshiva (Jewish religious seminary) students to indefinitely defer enlistment in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF).
"The division of the burden (of reserve duty) must change; what was will no longer be," Netanyahu told representatives of "Ma'ahal Hafreirim" ("Camp Chump") protest group, who are demanding the state amend the "Tal Law" and add the students to the IDF's ranks. The groundswell of support for changing the law comes in the wake of a Supreme Court decision in February which ruled that the decade-old legislation was unconstitutional. "In the last few months, I am aware that there are many opportunists who voted for extending the Tal Law -- I'm not among them," Netanyahu said, adding, "the Tal Law will be replaced with one that is more equal and just, and I will bring it to the fore." remainder: http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/xinhua/2012-04-29/content_5800240.html |

