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LeftishBrit

(41,192 posts)
1. I fear that what I call the 'first law of Republican politics' may also be the first law of Likud
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:11 AM
Oct 2014

politics.

I.e. that there 's no one (not even Eric Cantor, Mean Jean Schmidt, or Netanyahu) too RW to be challenged or defeated in a primary by someone even further right.

What is the Hebrew for 'Tea Party'?

I hope Feiglin isn't in the picture again!

King_David

(14,851 posts)
7. You probably believe that
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:55 PM
Oct 2014

And elements of Likud are beyond the tea party but it's simply not true what you keep saying .

Likud is not extremist anti Gay like the tea party and not extreme right wing kill all the gays like hamas terrorist group.

Likid compared to Hamas is Democrat as Hamas is way extremist right wing anti women hate for Gays and anti democracy as a group can get.

Likud as bad as they are have primaries and are voted into power. Hamas kills and throws their opponents off rooftops .

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. Their activity is well documented, and they're extreme, beyond the American Tea Party.
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 03:55 PM
Oct 2014

They'll use anyone, such as yourself and they are also destroying any chance for a viable state for the
Palestinians. You feel the exceptions they make raise them above the terror they have
reigned, we do not agree...never will. They're politically and militarily more powerful as well...no contest.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
9. As I said , you probably believe that but its simply not true
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:50 PM
Oct 2014

Likud is as evil as the republican party and the Tory party in England and the current Australan government, some elements of Likud are tea partying .

Hamas are an undemocratic anti progressive evil murderous regressive Gay hating homophobic , women hating bunch of terrorist thugs .

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
10. Likud has now and at their inception terrorized and indiscriminately murdered scores of
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 05:55 PM
Oct 2014

innocent people. Torture included, all documented, I don't write the reports.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
11. Yes you probably are convinced at that
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:08 PM
Oct 2014

But there's no comparison of a democratic elected government with a retrograde homophobic hating terrorist org like Hamas

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
12. Documents are revealing, you could read them while you take comfort in your exceptional view
Mon Oct 27, 2014, 06:10 PM
Oct 2014

of the Likud terror reign...or not.

Your opinion won't change the reports, not today not ever.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
3. Nah.
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 11:27 AM
Oct 2014

Like any fad or cliche, eventually it loses force. Eventually it becomes impossible to distinguish oneself from the hordes of others sharing ones aspirations by becoming more extreme, since they are all being as extreme as they know how to be. You can't out-Hitler Hitler. At some point you are just a loon. There are limits.

Have you noticed the proliferation of violations of Godwin's Law in recent decades? I remember when the memory was too vivid to such comparisons to be thrown around as carelessly as they are today. It is a cliche already and rapidly losing its meaning, the Hitler analogy.

Besides, at some point on the extremeness scale, you start to look stupid, moving ever to the right.

sabbat hunter

(6,825 posts)
4. Probably means that
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 12:25 PM
Oct 2014

general elections will be held spring next year. Bibi wants to re-enforce his standing as party leader, then call new general elections to shore up his base.

all of the mainstream parties that want Bibi ousted should unite under one banner and leader to do so, rather than the usual fractured and splintered line up we usually see.

I ask that
Labor
Yesh Atid
Hatnuah
Meretz

please unite under one leader, one party list, to get as a big a portion of the vote as possible. By campaigning as one, you will present a united voice and front to oppose Bibi. I think that this will increase their potential vote total than if they remained separate. In this case the whole being greater than the sum of its parts.

sabbat hunter

(6,825 posts)
6. sure they can
Sun Oct 26, 2014, 10:46 PM
Oct 2014

Likud and yisrael beiteinu ran on a unified ticket last time. Basically it just means you need to give members from both parties a place on the party list. The higher you are on the list, the greater the chance you will get a seat in the knesset.

Voters in Israel vote for a party, not a candidate. The seats in Knesset are they divided up on a proportional system (which is why the knesset is so splintered. You only need 2% of the vote to get a seat.

Correction 2% is the new higher vote total.

IMHO it should be about 5%.


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