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Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:44 PM Sep 2014

Why Israel's Fight Against William Schabas May Be Off-Target

Real Danger Lies in International Criminal Court



Before his foot even touches Gaza’s ground, the Canadian human rights scholar recently appointed to head the United Nations’ inquiry into the latest war there has come under withering preemptive attack.

Israeli officials and their American supporters have compared the choice of William Schabas to chair the Gaza inquiry commission to “inviting ISIS to organize religious tolerance week” — a reference to the violent, fundamentalist Islamic group whose mass murders in Syria and Iraq have won it infamy. Full-page ads in The New York Times and The Washington Post called Schabas “an apologist for radical anti-Semites.”

This barrage shouldn’t have surprised Schabas, the son of a prominent Canadian Jewish musician, who fondly recalls visits to synagogues and family meals at Jewish delicatessens. He may — as he has noted — visit Israel frequently, actively oppose an economic boycott of the Jewish state and sit on the board of The Israel Law Review and on the advisory board of a London-based Jewish human rights group.

snip* No one challenges the Canadian’s raw legal expertise. When Schabas was invited to lecture in 2004 at the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum in Washington, Jerry Fowler, the founding director of the museum’s Committee on Conscience, introduced him as “the world expert on the law of genocide and international law.”

Read more: http://forward.com/articles/204374/why-israels-fight-against-william-schabas-may-be-o/#ixzz3Cx3slSvv




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Why Israel's Fight Against William Schabas May Be Off-Target (Original Post) Jefferson23 Sep 2014 OP
I agree oberliner Sep 2014 #1
I'd go a bit further, frankly Aerows Sep 2014 #3
Not to cast aspersions on the UN Aerows Sep 2014 #2
It is not free of politics if that is what you meant..true. It is also true they can be cowardly Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #7
Without taking a position on Schabas, with whom I am not Blue Meany Sep 2014 #4
I feel you have more than a handle on the politics. The US bails out Israel, to date their Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #5
So you disagree with Schabas when he says the UNHRC has a double standard? oberliner Sep 2014 #6
No..he is prefectly clear: Jefferson23 Sep 2014 #8
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
1. I agree
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 05:57 PM
Sep 2014

It's the UN Human Rights Council that is the real issue.

As Schabas himself is quoted as saying in this piece:

"One of the great problems of the U.N. human rights system is double standards.”

And that's an understatement.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
3. I'd go a bit further, frankly
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:26 PM
Sep 2014

and say the problem with the UN is the leadership of the UN. Somewhere along the way, the leadership of the UN got lost in the weeds and it turned an excellent idea into a travesty.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
2. Not to cast aspersions on the UN
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 06:24 PM
Sep 2014

But they started with a noble vision, and lately have been a let-down at every turn. I suspect it is a leadership problem at present. You can't address top-down problems without replacing the leadership that causes them. My .02.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
7. It is not free of politics if that is what you meant..true. It is also true they can be cowardly
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:30 PM
Sep 2014

when they should be strong as in the case with Israel and the US reaction to their violations
which has gone on for a long time. The more powerful you are the less likely you'll pay
for it.

 

Blue Meany

(1,947 posts)
4. Without taking a position on Schabas, with whom I am not
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:00 PM
Sep 2014

familiar, I cannot help but notice that the are Israeli officials and apologists for the government that accuse virtually every international human rights group of having an anti-Israel bias, be it a UN agency, Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch, etc. Jewish and Israeli human rights organizations are accused of being self-hating Jews. One gets the impression that any group whose reports deviate significantly from IDF propaganda is going to be attacked. I wonder what the reaction would be if they had appointed an Arab Muslim to head the investigation.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
5. I feel you have more than a handle on the politics. The US bails out Israel, to date their
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:27 PM
Sep 2014

leadership has paid no price for their policies, which have been in violation of international
laws for a long time. If an Arab Muslim were to head the investigation they would have
similar reaction, perhaps more pronounced but the objections here are that Israel is held
to a higher standard..although as I stated, there is no truth to that on any level.

There is a list somewhere, that other nations should go ahead of Israel, and for that
reason alone, and or that what Israel is responsible for is reasonable, because they
only perpetuate discrimination and abuse of Palestinians because there is no other
means to " mow the law "..as they describe it.



 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
6. So you disagree with Schabas when he says the UNHRC has a double standard?
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:28 PM
Sep 2014

I am surprised by that.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
8. No..he is prefectly clear:
Wed Sep 10, 2014, 07:32 PM
Sep 2014

“Let’s just say that it’s a plausible complaint that maybe Israel has gotten a lot of attention at the Human Rights Council, but at the same time it has perhaps had a lot of inattention at the Security Council, so the double standards work in both directions for Israel,” Schabas said.

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