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Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:08 PM Aug 2014

Analysis: Hamas - A cruel and cynical enemy

On the first full day of a truce with Hamas, the IDF redeployed behind the Israeli border, and senior army officers began sharing their war stories.

The accounts all point to a cruel and cynical enemy that is willing to use kindergartens, schools and hospitals as rocket bases and tunnel covers, and which actively seeks to get Gazan civilians killed and injured.

One source on Tuesday spoke of how the army uncovered the Gazan shaft of a cross-border tunnel. It surfaced in a hothouse located right next to a Palestinian kindergarten. It led directly to Kibbutz Netiv Ha’asara, where Hamas gunmen planned to massacre civilians.

Other units found rocket launch tripods in school playgrounds.

“At the entrance to Beit Hanun, there were more homes with booby-traps than not,” said another army officer.

“Much of the destruction of homes in Gaza was because of Hamas’s booby traps.”

A brigade commander saw seven buildings utterly destroyed, when IDF shells set off bombs planted by Hamas inside them. “You see the buildings jump up and collapse, and you know a shell can’t do that to a multi-story building,” the source said.

In recent days, the IDF came under increased Hamas mortar fire, and when it traced the origin of the attacks, it found that they came from kindergartens and playgrounds in Gaza.

http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Analysis-Hamas-A-cruel-and-cynical-enemy-370193

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Analysis: Hamas - A cruel and cynical enemy (Original Post) Fozzledick Aug 2014 OP
Really? And should we believe that this is an unbiased analysis? notadmblnd Aug 2014 #1
You really need to take your head out of the sand. Fozzledick Aug 2014 #2
and you need to look in a mirror when you say that. notadmblnd Aug 2014 #3
I believe it. 840high Aug 2014 #4
no more or less biased sabbat hunter Aug 2014 #19
Both with agendas King_David Aug 2014 #20
Are there unbiased sources available? FBaggins Aug 2014 #22
The IDF murders hundreds of children in one month. bravenak Aug 2014 #5
I'm sure Hamas appreciates your efforts to promote their propaganda. Fozzledick Aug 2014 #6
Oh, no. They have Likud and Bloody Bibi to thank for that. bravenak Aug 2014 #7
Abraham Lincoln Mosby Aug 2014 #8
Bob Marley bravenak Aug 2014 #9
Some people are satisfied with fooling themselves. Fozzledick Aug 2014 #10
Yes i have noticed. bravenak Aug 2014 #11
I see you work hard at it also. Fozzledick Aug 2014 #12
Israel does all the hard work of allowing Likud free reign. bravenak Aug 2014 #13
Hamas can stop 840high Aug 2014 #14
And those big strong soldiers can stop. bravenak Aug 2014 #16
Well why all the killing of innocents if Hamas rockets are so inefficient? notadmblnd Aug 2014 #18
Back to square one. Fozzledick Aug 2014 #15
Oh, no! bravenak Aug 2014 #17
My guess is that I'm younger than you King_David Aug 2014 #21
I never said Hamas is winning. bravenak Aug 2014 #23

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
1. Really? And should we believe that this is an unbiased analysis?
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 11:14 PM
Aug 2014

A source? No names, no real facts. It's ridiculous to think that Americans will still buy this propaganda. You might still be able to sell articles like that to the Israeli people, but I don't think it will sway anyone here.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
22. Are there unbiased sources available?
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:54 PM
Aug 2014

The casualty figures essentially come from Hamas... the number of rockets comes from the IDF... etc.

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
6. I'm sure Hamas appreciates your efforts to promote their propaganda.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:09 AM
Aug 2014

They've worked so hard to create it.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
7. Oh, no. They have Likud and Bloody Bibi to thank for that.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:12 AM
Aug 2014

And I'm young enough to matter in twenty years. Israel needs to get folks like me on their side, and quick.

The occupation and Israel created Hamas.

"You can fool some people sometimes, but you can't fool all the people all the time." Bob Marley

Mosby

(16,299 posts)
8. Abraham Lincoln
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:21 AM
Aug 2014

"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
9. Bob Marley
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:24 AM
Aug 2014

Bob Marley Get Up Stand Up Lyrics
Artist: Bob Marley Lyrics
Album: Track 4 on Exodus
Length: 3:16



Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight!

Preacher man, don't tell me,
Heaven is under the earth.
I know you don't know
What life is really worth.
It's not all that glitters is gold;
'Alf the story has never been told:
So now you see the light, eh!
Stand up for your rights. Come on!

Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight!
Get up, stand up, stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up, don't give up the fight!

Most people think,
Great God will come from the skies,
Take away everything
And make everybody feel high.
But if you know what life is worth,
You will look for yours on earth:
And now you see the light,
You stand up for your rights. Jah!

Get up, stand up! (Jah, Jah!)
Stand up for your rights! (Oh-hoo!)
Get up, stand up! (Get up, stand up!)
Don't give up the fight! (Life is your right!)


Get up, stand up! (So we can't give up the fight!)
Stand up for your rights! (Lord, Lord!)
Get up, stand up! (Keep on struggling on!)
Don't give up the fight! (Yeah!)

We sick an' tired of-a your ism-skism game,
Dyin' 'n' goin' to heaven in-a Jesus' name, Lord.
We know when we understand:
Almighty God is a living man.
You can fool some people sometimes,
But you can't fool all the people all the time.

So now we see the light (What you gonna do?),
We gonna stand up for our rights! (Yeah, yeah, yeah!)

So you better,
Get up, stand up! (In the morning! Git it up!)
Stand up for your rights! (Stand up for our rights!)
Get up, stand up!
Don't give up the fight! (Don't give it up, don't give it up!)
Get up, stand up! (Get up, stand up!)
Stand up for your rights! (Get up, stand up!)
Get up, stand up!
Don't give up the fight! (Get up, stand up!)
Get up, stand up!
Stand up for your rights!
Get up, stand up!
Don't give up the fight!

Fozzledick

(3,860 posts)
10. Some people are satisfied with fooling themselves.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:29 AM
Aug 2014

Also: "You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, and that's all you need." (attributed to Richard Nixon )

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
11. Yes i have noticed.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:46 AM
Aug 2014

Many people (like Bibi) fool themselves into thinking they can fool all Americans all the time. Bibi sure thinks we are dumb.
Fortunately we can seek out information and fact check him and the IDF. DID you know the IDF Used children as human shields?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
13. Israel does all the hard work of allowing Likud free reign.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:59 AM
Aug 2014

And letting the IDF murder civilians.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
16. And those big strong soldiers can stop.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:06 AM
Aug 2014

Killing children. There's one IDF soldier who claims he sniped 13 children. In one day. And i'm supposed to think Hamas are the real terrorists? Nope. I used to despise Hamas, until the IDF started killing babies.

Israel can lift the blockade and give back ALL the land they stole and then pay restitution to the families of the victims. Dismantle the settlements and stop terrorizing the Palestinians. You can't steal, steal, steal, oppress, oppress, oppress, and expect not to have violent resistance. Even the US had slave revolts.

Victim turned perpetrators are still perpetrators.

notadmblnd

(23,720 posts)
18. Well why all the killing of innocents if Hamas rockets are so inefficient?
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 08:55 AM
Aug 2014

You just admitted that even you know that Hamas rockets are not a serious threat. Yet you are here supporting the murder of more than a thousand innocent Palestinian children, women and old people.

You Israel apologists have been propagandized into believing that the Palestinian people are sub-human.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
17. Oh, no!
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:07 AM
Aug 2014

They have Bloody Bibi to thank for that. He was behind the creation of so many telegenically dead bodies.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
21. My guess is that I'm younger than you
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 01:10 PM
Aug 2014

And besides a few people posting on these boards I don't think Hamas and their worldwide allies have any chance of winning over any group of Americans any time soon matter what the age group.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
23. I never said Hamas is winning.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 04:57 PM
Aug 2014

It's just that Israel is losing. I'm 33. I don't know how old you are Doctor.

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