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abovesobelow

(73 posts)
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:04 PM Aug 2014

Hamas "HUMAN SHIELD" manual found


IDF forces in the Gaza Strip found a Hamas manual on “Urban Warfare,” which belonged to the Shuja’iya Brigade of Hamas’ military wing, the Al-Qassam Brigades. The manual explains how the civilian population can be used against IDF forces and reveals that Hamas knows the IDF is committed to minimizing harm to civilians.

Throughout Operation Protective Edge, Hamas has continuously used the civilian population of Gaza as human shields. The discovery of a Hamas “urban warfare” manual by IDF forces reveals that Hamas’ callous use of the Gazan population was intentional and preplanned.

This Hamas urban warfare manual exposes two truths: (1) The terror group knows full well that the IDF will do what it can to limit civilian casualties. (2) The terror group exploits these efforts by using civilians as human shields against advancing IDF forces.

The Manual

In a portion entitled “Limiting the Use of Weapons,” the manual explains that: “The soldiers and commanders (of the IDF) must limit their use of weapons and tactics that lead to the harm and unnecessary loss of people and [destruction of] civilian facilities. It is difficult for them to get the most use out of their firearms, especially of supporting fire [e.g. artillery].”

Clearly Hamas knows the IDF will limit its use of weapons in order to avoid harming civilians, including refraining from using larger firepower to support for infantry.

The manual goes on to explain that the “presence of civilians are pockets of resistance” that cause three major problems for advancing troops:

(1) Problems with opening fire
(2) Problems in controlling the civilian population during operations and afterward
(3) Assurance of supplying medical care to civilians who need it

Lastly, the manual discusses the benefits for Hamas when civilian homes are destroyed: “The destruction of civilian homes: This increases the hatred of the citizens towards the attackers [the IDF] and increases their gathering [support] around the city defenders (resistance forces[i.e. Hamas]).”

It is clear that Hamas actually desires the destruction of homes and civilian infrastructure, knowing it will increase hatred for the IDF and support their fighters.

Why Shuja’iya is Important

It is also of no small importance that this manual belongs to the Shuja’iya Brigade. The IDF fought a major battle in the neighborhood of Shuja’iya, which had been turned into a terrorist stronghold. The discovery of this manual suggests that the destruction to the civilian population of Shuja’iya was a part of Hamas’ plan.


http://www.jpost.com/Operation-Protective-Edge/Will-captured-Hamas-manual-on-using-human-shields-help-Israel-block-war-crimes-trials-370154

http://www.algemeiner.com/2014/08/05/hamas-terror-manual-says-presence-of-civilians-are-pockets-of-resistance-codifying-policy-of-using-gazans-as-human-shields/
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Hamas "HUMAN SHIELD" manual found (Original Post) abovesobelow Aug 2014 OP
Bullshit. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #1
Was it written by this guy? KansDem Aug 2014 #2
My guess is these dudes, they run the op....... abovesobelow Aug 2014 #4
It amazes me. Hamas uses women and children as human shields.......... wandy Aug 2014 #28
The Protocols of the Elders of Gaza… Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #3
Pretty much why the Gazan's elected terrorists to govern them, they don't want peace abovesobelow Aug 2014 #5
Take a Valium, you'll feel better soon. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #8
Well, I guess that makes it OK to kill them. arcane1 Aug 2014 #6
Pretty much, woulnd't you expect your government to retaliate abovesobelow Aug 2014 #7
no, i wouldn't.. frylock Aug 2014 #13
So... Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #33
clearly the disproportional retaliation is working to deter further rocket attacks.. frylock Aug 2014 #34
You know that line is getting so fucking stale! upaloopa Aug 2014 #27
So then.. Shaktimaan Aug 2014 #32
Here's your problem. aranthus Aug 2014 #9
Well people with such strong biases can benefit from education abovesobelow Aug 2014 #11
Look at the responses here , LoL, it's "bullshit" because Hamas denied it King_David Aug 2014 #10
Not quite. It's a lie because it supports Israel's position. n/t aranthus Aug 2014 #12
It's bullshit because Hamas would never call them "human shields". bemildred Aug 2014 #16
Fair point King_David Aug 2014 #17
Thank you, and props for saying so. nt bemildred Aug 2014 #19
Clearly Hamas knows the IDF will limit its use of weapons in order to avoid harming civilians.. frylock Aug 2014 #14
Was it written in Hebrew? HooptieWagon Aug 2014 #15
Bullshit. bravenak Aug 2014 #18
I suppose the Indians and the French leftynyc Aug 2014 #20
I think that if the IDF knows damn well that the militants are firing remotely.... bravenak Aug 2014 #21
The IDF did not put out the video leftynyc Aug 2014 #22
So, journalists have better info than the IDF? bravenak Aug 2014 #23
Yeah - I'm sure hamas leftynyc Aug 2014 #24
They let those guys in the link you posted film them, so... bravenak Aug 2014 #25
"if they wanted to keep it secret they wouldn't have used that big blue tent" King_David Aug 2014 #29
The tent was so obvious. bravenak Aug 2014 #31
i bet it was laying next to the drivers lisence of the 9/11 hijacker peoli Aug 2014 #26
Building 7 ? King_David Aug 2014 #30

abovesobelow

(73 posts)
4. My guess is these dudes, they run the op.......
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:16 PM
Aug 2014

"Does your country’s banks host accounts belonging to Hezbollah related NGOs, businessmen or companies? It might be profitable now, but not so much in the future if the “Hezbollah International Financing Prevention Act of 2014” is approved by the US Congress.


Two days ago, a group of United States Senators, both democrats and republicans, introduced a new bill that might directly affect the financial sector in Lebanon. The bill aims to curb Hezbollah’s global financial connections and its money laundering activities that help fund the organization’s activities in Lebanon, Syria and elsewhere. In April, a group of politicians introduced a similar bipartisan legislation in the House of Representatives.


The Act imposes more financial sanctions against the group than in the past. The draft asks to impose sanctions on individuals or institutions such as central banks that knowingly do business with Hezbollah, or companies/individuals who have been designated by the US as Hezbollah financiers. Central banks would be forbidden from conducting any financial activities in the US.


The bill also targets Al-Manar TV, Hezbollah’s mouthpiece. Sanctions would be imposed on all US cable companies that offer the channel. The bill also urges President Barack Obama to name Hezbollah as a “Narcotics Trafficking Organization,” shedding light on several cases of Latin American drug rings allegedly related to the Lebanese Party of God.


The bill introduced to the senate also requires the president to provide Congress, within 90 days, with a list of countries in which Hezbollah maintains important portions of its global logistics networks" and a list of countries where Hezbollah, or its affiliates, conduct fundraising events. The Obama administration is also required to specify if anything is being done to curb those activities.


It is widely known that Hezbollah’s main source of funding comes from Iran and of the allegedly cash-filled-suitcases that used to come from Tehran through Syria. However, due to international sanctions on Iran, the country has recently discussed an austerity budget that made Hezbollah spend much less on its community of supporters in Beirut. Nevertheless, according to several analysts, inside sources and businessmen that NOW has interviewed over the years, Hezbollah also relies on a worldwide network of charities and businesses whose profits go directly into the party’s pocket."

https://now.mmedia.me/lb/en/newsandpolitics/547469-targeting-hezbollahs-business-empire

wandy

(3,539 posts)
28. It amazes me. Hamas uses women and children as human shields..........
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 12:34 PM
Aug 2014

and we all recoil in horror with some going as far as to recommend genocide.
Yet when an american openly admits that they would use women and children as human shields..........

Crickets
Not so much as a Fu**ing parking ticket.
Some think him a hero fighting a oppressive government for just cows.
Many simply forget and in doing so accept.

abovesobelow

(73 posts)
5. Pretty much why the Gazan's elected terrorists to govern them, they don't want peace
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:22 PM
Aug 2014

just to carry out the bidding of Iran, their main arms supplier and funder, and wipe Israeli Jews off the face of the map.

Part of Hama's charter.........
"our struggle against the Jews is very great and very serious" and calls for the eventual creation of an Islamic state in Palestine, in place of Israel and the Palestinian Territories,[2] and the obliteration or dissolution of Israel"



They won't even remove THEIR CALL FOR GENOCIDE AGAINST JEWS GLOBALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But, they want peace......
 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
6. Well, I guess that makes it OK to kill them.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:28 PM
Aug 2014

Just like when a fugitive holds a family hostage, the police are justified in killing the family in order to get the fugitive.

abovesobelow

(73 posts)
7. Pretty much, woulnd't you expect your government to retaliate
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:32 PM
Aug 2014

if missiles were fired on your territory by a Radical Fundamentalist group that took a vow to wipe you and yours off the planet because of your belief?

frylock

(34,825 posts)
13. no, i wouldn't..
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 05:33 PM
Aug 2014

would you expect the local PD to level your block because someone down the street robbed the liquor store?

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
33. So...
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 02:33 AM
Aug 2014

How are rocket attacks against civilians in any way similar to a liquor store robbery?

Perhaps you would not expect your government to protect you from attacks by a foreign government. But most people, and the Israelis affected by these attacks, certainly do. In fact their government has an obligation to respond, just as ours would.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
34. clearly the disproportional retaliation is working to deter further rocket attacks..
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 11:33 AM
Aug 2014

keep fucking that chicken.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
27. You know that line is getting so fucking stale!
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 11:59 AM
Aug 2014

Compared the numbers of dead on both sides. Compare the living conditions on both sides. Compare the treatment of civilians on both sides by the other side.
Compare the historical presence of each population in the area.
If I took your home away would you be bitter?

Shaktimaan

(5,397 posts)
32. So then..
Thu Aug 7, 2014, 02:28 AM
Aug 2014

If a Native American group began launching rockets and mortars at US civilians in order to "retake their homeland" you WOULDN'T expect any retaliation on the part of the US government?

Palestinian terrorist groups have always actively targeted Israeli civilians and often children. Their treatment of civilians on both sides of the conflict is far more reprehensible than Israeli policies.

Jews lived in the area for as long as any other native population. Israeli Jewish refugees originally from (non-Israeli) Palestine or other Arab states did lose their homes to ethnic cleansing. They have not used this as an excuse to refuse opportunities for peace. How many Jewish refugees from Egypt do you see launching terrorist attacks against their former state?

The living conditions in Gaza are a direct result of their actions. When Israel left in 2005 Gaza had all of the tools to build a successful, peaceful society. Instead they chose to invest their efforts in attacking Israel. Mere hours following the withdrawal in fact.

That said, how has attacking israel improved gaza's living conditions? Why does that excuse terrorism iyo?

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
9. Here's your problem.
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:35 PM
Aug 2014

Among the anti-Israel crowd (and who else do you think you're posting this to on this board?), rejects any seemingly pro-Israel statement as a lie, without any evidence, and accepts any anti-Israel statement as true, despite the evidence. Even the wretched lies of Hamas. For example, the following:

1. Hamas has offered peace to Israel. Said several times on this board, even though it is blatantly untrue.
2. Israel is only prohibiting imports of concrete into Gaza to punish the Palestinians, not because Hamas could use the concrete to build anything to attack Israel.
3. Hamas doesn't want to kill Jews.

There are others, but you get the idea.

abovesobelow

(73 posts)
11. Well people with such strong biases can benefit from education
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:41 PM
Aug 2014

unless of course they are part of some foreign government outfit, which wouldn't surprise me. Either way over the weekend the whole site was painted with anti-Israel posts and blatantly anti-Semitic statements, there needs to be a context presented in the face of such manipulative tactics.

King_David

(14,851 posts)
10. Look at the responses here , LoL, it's "bullshit" because Hamas denied it
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 01:40 PM
Aug 2014

Or it makes Hamas look bad or something.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
16. It's bullshit because Hamas would never call them "human shields".
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 08:58 PM
Aug 2014

THAT is an Israeli propaganda term.

Hamas is down in the tunnels, where they can't be bombed, that's what the tunnels are for. That's why they are down there. But apparently the IDF is too stupid to understand that, or too fond of believing its own bullshit, or it simply does not care.

But in any case, Hamas does not rely on the proximity of citizens of Gaza to protect itself, it has better means and better sense than to rely on Israeli notions of "restraint", or the bodies of the people of Gaza, which as we can see offer very little protection.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
14. Clearly Hamas knows the IDF will limit its use of weapons in order to avoid harming civilians..
Tue Aug 5, 2014, 05:36 PM
Aug 2014

ummmmmm.... okay then. how's that working out?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
21. I think that if the IDF knows damn well that the militants are firing remotely....
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 09:17 AM
Aug 2014

Like in that video. It's an even bigger crime to drop bombs on the site that they know are filled with civilians and devoid of Hamas fighters. The video makes the case for them even worse.
In the video, the Hamas fighters set up the contraption the DAY PREVIOUS to firing the weapon. Why bomb the area when you know they have been gone for 24 HOURS!? When you know that there will ONLY be civilians in the area!?

Thanks for the link. It proves to me that the IDF knows for fact that the militants are LONG GONE before they drop bombs on highly populated areas.

Maybe the video doesn't make the IDF look any better than hamas. They fired from an empty lot, not a UN school or a hosptial, or a home or apartment. So why bomb the infrastructure? To terrorize the people. Shame.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
24. Yeah - I'm sure hamas
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 09:38 AM
Aug 2014

will just let the IDF film them shooting off their rockets because that makes perfect sense.....well, I guess it does to you which wont surprise anybody with a brain.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
25. They let those guys in the link you posted film them, so...
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 09:43 AM
Aug 2014

Yeah. I mean, if they wanted to keep it secret they wouldn't have used that big blue tent, and set up in broad daylight. Then left it for a day before firing remotely. It seems to me that the way they set up and fire projectiles should be known by the IDF. It is such a superior force and all. If they simply let Gaza have self rule, the citizens might report rockets. But if you bomb them, why should they?

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
31. The tent was so obvious.
Wed Aug 6, 2014, 05:34 PM
Aug 2014

So now that we know tgat the rockets are set up the day before and fired remotely, can we stop bombing the civilians. Now that the Indian journalists cracked the case.

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