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Related: About this forumGaza imam calls for Jews’ extermination
A Hamas-affiliated imam in Gaza said the group will exterminate Jews, and launched an anti-Semitic diatribe in a sermon broadcast on Hamass Al-Aqsa TV station
A video of the sermon, made available on Tuesday by the Middle East Media Research Institute, shows the cleric speaking last week at a mosque in Dir al-Balah in the central Gaza Strip.
Our doctrine in fighting you (the Jews) is that we will totally exterminate you, he says. We will not leave a single one of you alive, because you are alien usurpers of the land and eternal mercenaries.
Research the history, my brothers. Wherever the Jews lived, they spread corruption, he cries out.
Oh Muslims, didnt you notice that Allah said: They spread in THE land
The definite article in THE land means the entire land. They spread in the land corruption, and Allah loves not the corrupters.
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BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)Does this surprise you, when Israel is destroying Gaza and killing hundreds and hundreds of innocents?
misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)We've heard versions of this before.
BillZBubb
(10,650 posts)The occurred in peacetime purely based on cold blooded hate. This is different and I would expect such comments in an emotional situation.
samsingh
(17,593 posts)Not surprised at all .
They hate us Jews in Israel,Jews in Argentina,Canada,USA,France, Ukraine.
Hamas has a lot of company in the world too in this respect,Left and right wing too.
PCIntern
(25,490 posts)say:
King_David
(14,851 posts)Someone called me an asshole and the post wasn't hidden but if you .... ( can't continue because I fear my post will be hidden )
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=5305195
PCIntern
(25,490 posts)Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)And it's only getting worse as the hysteria increases.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)PCIntern
(25,490 posts)let's alert every post we possibly can until someone gets put in time-out or banned. What a fun game...or have you heard of this exercise yet?
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)It's called the truth. More people should try it some time.
I'll go first. Israel has killed a lot of Palestinian civilians, and some posters right here in I/P blame the Palestinians for their own deaths.
Some would rather distract from that fact by posting as many stories as possible about anti-Semitism than deal with the fact that their beloved state of Israel has knowingly sanctioned the deaths of children.
PCIntern
(25,490 posts)And GLIB. And Creative.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Try it some time.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)misterhighwasted
(9,148 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)intaglio
(8,170 posts)Right-wing rabbis ruling: Israel may totally destroy Gaza if necessary
'Deterrent measures to exterminate the enemy are allowed in some cases, Rabbi Dov Lior writes.
/snip
Therefore, in a time of war, the attacked nation is permitted to punish the enemy population with whatever measures it deems proper, like blocking supplies or electricity. It may bomb the entire area based on the judgment of the war minister and not wantonly put soldiers at risk deterrent measures to exterminate the enemy [are also allowed], Rabbi Dov Lior, the senior West Bank settler rabbi and the rabbi of the West Bank settlement of Kiryat Arba adjacent to Hebron, reportedly wrote.
The defense minister may even order the destruction of Gaza so that the south should no longer suffer, and to prevent harm to members of our people who have long been suffering from the enemies surrounding us, Lior continued.
Do you condemn this pronouncement as well or are you just trying to demonise Palestinians?
King_David
(14,851 posts)And this hateful antiSemitic bigot in the OP too.
intaglio
(8,170 posts)I wonder why?
King_David
(14,851 posts)Shcaich .
This "hate spouting Palestinians" as you call it ,is directing his hate towards me ,so of course it attracts my attention. (I'm a Jew)
And for that very reason it attracts a lot of other peoples attention who are not even affected in any way whatsoever by this hate ( except that it's directed toward Jews)
And by the way when the very same bigots direct their hate toward Gays it attracts my attention too.
Now you don't have to "wonder why" anymore .....
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Katashi_itto
(10,175 posts)On Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:42 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
Stop the hate, king.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=74507
REASON FOR ALERT
This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.
ALERTER'S COMMENTS
Personal attack
A randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Jul 30, 2014, 07:56 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.
Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a positive message. Taken literally. Given all the emotion around this, I'd suggest it be taken literally.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Not even a personal attack.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I don't think this post rises to the level of a hide.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: King_David is a Zionist Apologist. A shill for Sharon. Israel can do no wrong it commits genocide and its fine with him.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Haters gonna hate.
samsingh
(17,593 posts)intaglio
(8,170 posts)The idea seems to be no longer "an eye for an eye" but rather your head and your children for an eye
Fozzledick
(3,860 posts)Too bad we can't talk about it here.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Brought to you by Netanyahu and all the baby-killers in the IDF.
So to sum up. Some Imam calls for murder while Israelis are actually carrying out wholesale murder.
Larkspur
(12,804 posts)My Irish ancestors hated their British overlords and my paternal aunt, a 2nd generation Irish-American, told me never to trust the British. Oppression breeds hatred and mistrust that takes root in following generations. Hatred born of oppression is aborted when justice and economic opportunities are fairly administered.
While I oppose what this imam is publicly saying, he's in the middle of a major crisis of his people. He's also part of a people who are the most destitute on the planet even when the rockets and bombs are not flying. When there is a ceasefire, Israel continues the oppressive siege and blockade against the Palestinian people in Gaza and continues stealing land in the West Bank. The siege and blockade are the acts at the origin of Hamas' rockets being launched ineffectively against Israeli towns and settlements.
Since Israel has the 5th most powerful military on the planet, this imam's outburst has no immediate consequence. But since the Arab and Palestinian birth rates are higher than the Jewish ones, the real threat to Israeli Jews is the non-Jewish population explosion that could or will make Jews a definite minority in their land by the next generation. I suspect that is at the heart of Israel's brutal assault, referred to by Israelis as "mowing the lawn," upon the Palestinians in Gaza.
All Israel is doing today with their brutal assault upon the Palestinians in Gaza is sowing the seeds of anti-Jewish hatred in the next generation of Palestinians. Hamas, it is said, was born out of the first Intifada. While Israel publicly talks about ridding Gaza of Hamas, those left behind are more likely to be more radical than Hamas, which was once supported by Israel to neuter Arafat's Palestinian Authority.
A proverb from the Old Testament said something like this, "when leaders have no vision, the people perish." The Israeli leaders today only have a vision of destroying and slaughtering Palestinians. They, not Hamas, are sowing the seeds of destruction for the state of Israel. The same could be said of Hamas, but the Palestinians are a stateless people thanks to Israelis reneging on previous truces and treaties. The people of Gaza are refugees from towns now occupied by Israeli Jews, who are cheering the Israeli bombings.
Israel today is proving Gandhi right, that Israel had no right to exist in the land of Palestine without the consent of the indigenous people and their neighbors. By forcing the state of Israel upon Palestine, America, Western Europe and the Zionists committed the last act of Western European colonialism in the 20th century and thus created the mess we see today with no hope for peace in the future.
King_David
(14,851 posts)R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)That it is alright to kill Palestinian children and call it photogenic when it is displayed for the world to see?
Although you would like to believe otherwise there is no daylight between Israel and its European neighbors.
Mosby
(16,262 posts)Odd that Gandhi didn't know that.
He also said that the Jews should have willingly walked into the gas chambers.
King_David
(14,851 posts)That since 1948 Jews no longer go like lambs....
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Just because you can't bring yourself to care about the lives of Arabs, Dave, doesn't mean other people share that dysfunction.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)It must really stick in the Israeli craw that the Palestinians don't want to go like lambs either.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)There are idiots on both sides, and to highlight that one religious leader calling for slaughter is to be more reviled than another calling for slaughter is an excuse to justify slaughter.
ProgressiveMuslim
(6,502 posts)As always... let's focus on what Palestinians say, and not what israel DOES.
Given what people in Gaza are experiencing right now, I find it amazing that 1.8 million people aren't calling for Israel to be exterminated. Look at how the US reacted after one attack on 9/11.... we were willing to take down the world. Imagine that feeling 100-fold...
Jefferson23
(30,099 posts)They won't make it stop.