Wiesenthal releases 'Top Ten 2013 anti-Semitic, anti-Israel slurs' list

[King_David]

BERLIN – The Simon Wiesenthal Center announced on Monday its 2013 top-10 list of anti-Semitic and anti-Israel slurs, giving the top two slots to the leaders of Iran and Turkey.

The list underlined the failure of the international community to confront contemporary anti-Semitism by citing state-sponsored drives to attack Jews and Israel and the role of a UN official, authors, academic and church groups and celebrities in stoking Jew-hatred.

The center, an international human rights organization best known for combating modern anti-Semitism and bringing World War II Nazis to justice, topped the list with Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khamenei’s “genocidal threats against the Jewish state.”

In November, Khamenei described Israel as the “rabid dog in the region,” adding, “Its leaders look like beasts and cannot be called human.” Khamenei said shortly before the Iranian election that “Zionists” were the real agents in control of the United States – an accusation with which he was “updating the old canard of a global Jewish conspiracy,” according to the center.


http://www.jpost.com/Jewish-World/Jewish-Features/Wiesenthal-releases-Top-Ten-2013-anti-Semiticanti-Israel-slurs-list-336564

[msongs]

1. since palestinians are also semites the list must include slurs against them of course nt

[King_David]

2. Yes Palestinians are Semites,

antisemite only applies to Jews though.


Full Definition of ANTI-SEMITISM

: hostility toward or discrimination against Jews as a religious, ethnic, or racial group
— an·ti–Se·mit·ic adjective
— an·ti–Sem·ite noun

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anti-semitism

[Scootaloo]

3. Well, there's this...

He stressed that one has to “judge people by their words. You can be an anti-Semite if you talk like anti-Semites.”

Since most of the bullshit you and yours come up with about Palestinians and arabs in general is effectively identical to what the average skinhead says about Jews, msongs has a point.

Adding to the point is that you feel you are entitled to strip someone's Jewish identity if they are not sufficiently anti-Arab for your liking, or if they are not be as ethnically constrained as you prefer (remember how you made a point of denying someone's Jewishness on the basis that they also identify as chicano?) and that you are utterly unwilling to distinguish between "Jews" and "Israel" at any point? Your closest compadre on this site seems to think that all Jews are the same, sharing just a single culture and history - specifically Ashkenazim and Orthodox culture and history.

Everything I've seen, not just from posters on DU but within your philosophy as a whole, paints the picture of zionists being largely antisemitic people. Your hatred of Jews is mostly externalized and couched in anti-Arab terms and arguments, but every now and then it comes out pretty plainly. Such as some posters here who are positively reveling in the anti-Jewish acts in France - effectively seeing the mistreatment of jews as a positive, a recruiting tool, rather than a negative, the abuse of a human being.

[King_David]

4. WTF you talking about?

Here's some people in today's France in pics:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1223844


"bullshit you and yours come up with about Palestinians and arabs in general is effectively identical to what the average skinhead says about Jews, "

Coming from you in particular that's precious... Please show me things I have said...

WTF do you think you are with your ridiculous accusation when you have been blocked from the LGBT group for good reason.

[Scootaloo]

5. Exactly my point

For you, that shit is something you gloat over. You're like "fuck yeah, Jews getting abused, now my shitty philosophy seems slightly relevant!" It's pretty regular, honestly.

And really? Dave, someone who proclaims people to be non-Jews on the basis of their also being Mexican doesn't get to gripe when he's called out for his antisemitism. Nor for that matter does someone who posts shit by Kenneth Meshoe get to point fingers about homophobia. Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery.

[King_David]

6. Being called an antisemite by you ?

That's not only funny it's absurd in an upside down universe.

Strange too, us Jews call it Chutzpah , I call it sick.

Strange you find DU a comfortable place to call home I have seen other places on the web you would be more comfortable at.

As for me : proud Jew , Proud Zionist , Proud Gay dude , Proud to support USA Democratic Party. ....

Take your bigotry elsewhere , the LGBT group blocked you not for no reason.

[Scootaloo]

7. Absolutely, being called anantisemite by me

Because I recognize that when some motherfucker who can't tell the difference between Jews and Israel, tells a Jewish person "you're not a Jew because you're Mexican" or "You're not a Jew because I don't like your politics," said motherfucker is an antisemite. Especially when this motherfucker actually defends that presumption, claiming that he is empowered to speak for all Jews in the universe because he's "part of an organization."

And the LGBT group blocked me because I called a guy racist when he said racist shit about the president's wife. I suppose you. being a right-wing bigot yourself, absolutely support such a thing.

Tell me. While you're demonstrating your pride in the Democratic Party by defending race-hate against Michelle Obama, do you demonstrate pride in your orientation by posting articles penned by evangelical homophobes like Kenneth Meshoe? Is that how it works? Shit, go the whole way, demonstrate your Jewish pride with some Ernst Zundl and your Zionist pride by sharing with us the wisdom of Gilad Atzmon. Upside-down universe, indeed.

[King_David]

9. Your out of control and don't deserve

To be engaged in conversation with myself.

Your post above is more than disgusting and hopefully nobody alerts in it , it should be seen by everyone.

[Scootaloo]

11. I see no reason to step daintily to mind the feelings of bigots, Dave

Problem could just be solved by not pretending to be the Jewish pope handing out excommunications, and maybe doing some research on a source, and maybe just maybe not riding to the defense of someone who belittles a black woman for being a black woman talking about black children at a fundraising event for a mostly-black community.

simple, right? Oh, and maybe while you're thumping on about voting Democratic, you could spare some time to pick up some liberal principles. Unless you're intentionally going for that whole Dov Hikind "I hate the blacks and the arabs and the gays but I'm Jewish and a democrat so it's all good" vibe - in which case you're doing a masterful job, bravo.

[King_David]

13. I think you haven't wrapped your head around the fact

That there are strong Jews and Gays now, you don't intimidate me with your shit, I can't even read that bigoted crap you been writing and I now know why you were banned from the LGBT group was as I expected.

Your self described AntiZionist views run far further than that .

I need a shower before work, I ain't participating in this sick conversation with you anymore.

I'm not sure why someone with your extreme views would be comfortable here on DU where we support policies of my Democratic Party ,and fight bigotry and homophobia.

[King_David]

14. Why don't you post this bigoted crap in DUs Jewish and LGBT groups

And see how people feel about it there?

Oops forgot that your not allowed to post in one of them and safe bet you wouldn't be welcomed in the other...both with good reason .

Bye Bye I have had enough of these posts of yours..

[Violet_Crumble]

16. What exactly has Scoot said that's bigoted?

There's nothing in this thread that they've said that's bigoted...

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

18. This sounds like the whimper of the day.

Can't back up your shizzle? Don't worry. Just accuse somebody of being a bigot or a bully.

I didn't realize that one who claims to be strong is really quite vulnerable.

Or perhaps it is just a play of sorts?

[Violet_Crumble]

19. It does...

Apparently anyone pointing out to them that some of their posts here have exhibited views that are bigoted equates to the person pointing it out and backing it up with links to the posts being a bigot for pointing it out.

[Jefferson23]

20. He has been busted many times..amazing it continues. n/t

[King_David]

8. WTF you talking about ? Flinging shit everywhere in desperation that it sticks?

Good strategy but it won't .

"And really? Dave, someone who proclaims people to be non-Jews on the basis of their also being Mexican doesn't get to gripe when he's called out for his antisemitism. Nor for that matter does someone who posts shit by Kenneth Meshoe get to point fingers about homophobia. Seriously, this isn't rocket surgery."

Show me where I said anything of the sort about Mexican Jews who happen to be one of the wealthiest and staunchly Zionist of all the Jewish Diaspora community .
( you make that shit up ?)

Show me a post of mine about "Kenneth Meshoe"---

There's lots of real bigotry around , you should look for it in yr bathroom mirror.

[Scootaloo]

10. Is your search function broken, David?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113454253
^ in which you kick off a subthread by proclaiming Jeiwsh people to not be Jews, using in your defense an article that denounces a Jew as being a "poser" because he identifies as chicano. This is also where you proclaim that your membership in "an organization" entitles you to perform such excommunications.

I'm no expert on Judaism I'll admit, but whoever told you you're the Jewish pope was probably lying to you.

http://metamorphosis.democraticunderground.com/113453386
^ In which you throw out a thread based on an article by Kevin Meshoe that basically rants and rages against the nasty Arabs using the word "Apartheid." You did delete, after it was pointed out to you what a stinker this guy is... but not before rushing to his defense after it was laid out for you. He told you what you wanted to hear, so he was your guy. I really doubt anyone buys your "oops i didn't know" claims, since this has happened before - there was that one tabloid owner, crazy batshit fucker over in the UK (Scotland?) you thought was prime mateiral becuase of his stance...

Oh, and for the record, here's your friend and ally going with Meshoe as well. And another.

It looks to me like Zionists don't really see gay people as anything other than a group to exploit to further the crusade against the filthy amalek they hate so much, Dave. Yourself included, on both ends. That must be frustrating.

[King_David]

12. Ha , did I write those OP's ?

AntiZionist (as you describe yourself)is the same as antisemite . And an extreme right wing view to boot..

Your views are marginal radical bigoted and have no place on a website such as this ... I think your posting on the wrong site.

[Violet_Crumble]

17. Scoot didn't say you did. They said you made the offending comments in a subthread....

This should have pointed that out if you'd read the post ' in which you kick off a subhead..'

Do you need a direct link to the sub-thread?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

23. Is Scoot being victimized here?

I really wish that Scoot wouldn't be bullied so.

[WatermelonRat]

15. Must this semantics game be played every time anti-semitism is brought up?

In linguistic studies, the term "semitic" refers to a language family, and the practicioners of these languages (which include Arabic, Hebrew, Aramaic, and Maltese) are sometimes referred to as "Semites" in this context.

Anti-Semitism, however, means and has always meant the hatred of Jews specifically, including those who do not speak Semitic languages. This has been the definition for nearly 150 years, and trying to play semantics at this point is little more than willfull obtuseness attempting to derail discussion of the topic.

It's like the classic argument of "I can't be a homophobe because I'm not afraid of gays!"

[azurnoir]

21. so the Wiesenthal Center rates Roger Waters as more of threat than Jobbik in Hungary

well that says quite a bit

[Violet_Crumble]

22. Yes, it's rather stupid...

Most top 10 lists are pretty stupid, and this one's no exception. I haven't paid much attention to Roger Waters, apart from listening to Dark Side of the Moon over the Xmas break, but is this whoo-ha still over the inflatable pig from 'Animals' and that he dared to call Israel an apartheid state?

[R. Daneel Olivaw]

24. Waters apparently uses a lot of iconography, and

if IMHO he sees a supposedly democratic country acting like colonialist aholes I guess he can call attention to it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inflatable_pigs_on_Roger_Waters%27_tours


Perhaps if Israel doesn't want to act like an apartheid state then they should practice it in the first place.