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Sun Jan 27, 2013, 09:12 PM

Secret Donors Finance Fight Against Hagel

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"A brand new conservative group calling itself Americans for a Strong Defense and financed by anonymous donors is running advertisements urging Democratic senators in five states to vote against Chuck Hagel, President Obama’s nominee to be secretary of defense, saying he would make the United States “a weaker country.”

Another freshly minted and anonymously backed organization, Use Your Mandate, which presents itself as a liberal gay rights group but purchases its television time through a prominent Republican firm, is attacking Mr. Hagel as “anti-Gay,” “anti-woman” and “anti-Israel” in ads and mailers.

Those groups are joining at least five others that are organizing to stop Mr. Hagel’s confirmation, a goal even they acknowledge appears to be increasingly challenging. But the effort comes with a built-in consolation prize should it fail: depleting some of Mr. Obama’s political capital as he embarks on a new term with fresh momentum.

The media campaign to scuttle Mr. Hagel’s appointment, unmatched in the annals of modern presidential cabinet appointments, reflects the continuing effects of the Supreme Court’s 2010 Citizens United decision, which loosened campaign finance restrictions and was a major reason for the record spending by outside groups in the 2012 election. All told, these independent and largely secretly financed groups spent well over $500 million in an attempt to defeat Mr. Obama and the Democrats, a failure that seemed all the greater given the huge amounts spent."

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/27/us/politics/secret-donors-finance-fight-against-hagel.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

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Scurrilous Jan 2013 OP
oberliner Jan 2013 #1
delrem Jan 2013 #3
oberliner Feb 2013 #8
delrem Feb 2013 #11
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #2
delrem Jan 2013 #4
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #5
Scurrilous Jan 2013 #6
Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #7
oberliner Feb 2013 #9
Jefferson23 Feb 2013 #10

Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 10:25 PM

1. Always good to watch Republicans throwing money away

Weird that Obama nominated Hagel when people were saying "The Lobby" would never allow such a thing to take place.

Perhaps some myths are being shattered finally.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 11:17 PM

3. I don't think AIPAC's strong influence on US politics is "myth".

Sometimes you've got to call it how it is, oberliner.
On the other hand individuals like Adelson, not so much. Didn't he waste a ton of $$ on Gingrich?

Isn't it more correct to say that "The Lobby" would try to bar a (perceived) anti-Israel appointment to go through, and "The Lobby" is very well connected in DC? In spite of taking a back seat on the Hagel appointment, there seems to be enough noise in the air suggesting that AIPAC isn't exactly pleased by Hagel. Perhaps AIPAC, as with the US "leading from behind" foreign policy strategy, finds that current circumstances (political heat) make it expedient to play it low-key while making moves in private, in 1-on-1 sessions etc. Anyway, we'll see how the Hagel appointment turns out. If the appointment doesn't fail it will show that "The Lobby" isn't omnipotent, but it takes more than one occurrence to suggest anything of real note.

Same goes for "The Wall St. Lobby". It most certainly exists and is powerful, but isn't omnipotent.

I do wish that people like Adelson saw the world a bit differently. For example, I think that promoting Israel's health care system as being one of a few good examples during the US health care debates might've been a positive thing for both Israel's image and for US progressive/liberal resolve. Opinion polls showed that a move (in the debate) in that direction would have been very well received by a majority of the american public.
But the right wing that Adelson hangs with, Gingrich and co., can't be happy with that aspect of Israeli policy, and so it goes...

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Response to delrem (Reply #3)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:36 PM

8. AIPAC has not taken any position on Hagel

Not sure why you would even bring them up.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #8)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 09:34 PM

11. I was responding to *your* use of the term 'myth'. n/t

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 11:11 PM

2. But Hagel is now on message..Chuck Schumer says so:

snip*In a statement Tuesday, Schumer said Hagel addressed his concerns over Israel and Iran during a 90-minute Monday meeting at the White House, saying the former Nebraska senator had been “forthcoming and sincere.” Regarding Iran, Schumer said Hagel rejected a containment strategy regarding the country and said the U.S. would do “whatever it takes” to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

Planning military contingencies against Iran would be Hagel’s “top priority” as defense secretary, Schumer said.

snip* Moreover, Hagel told Schumer that he backs unilateral sanctions against Iran. On Hezbollah, Hagel pointed to past comments in which he referred to it as a terrorist group. And despite previously calling for direct talks with leaders of Hamas, Hagel said he now believes there should be “no negotiations with Hamas, Hezbollah or any other terrorist group until they renounce violence and recognize Israel’s right to exist.”

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/01/chuck-schumer-says-hell-support-chuck-hagels-nomination-86215.html

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 11:21 PM

4. well, there you go...

I wouldn't've posted my reply if I read this first.

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Response to delrem (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 27, 2013, 11:27 PM

5. Some like to pretend the lobby is a myth, the policies we have appear more acceptable that way.

And if the lobby is not 100% successful 100% of the time that is more "proof" it's
a myth they yield any power.

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 05:53 PM

6. GOP Sen. Cochran will back Hagel

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"Sen. Thad Cochran (R-Miss.) on Tuesday became the first Republican to indicate he would vote to confirm Chuck Hagel as defense secretary.

Democrats appear to be lining up behind Hagel’s confirmation, but so far six Repulicans have said they will vote against Obama’s pick.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) said Monday he was prepared to place a hold on Hagel’s nomination until Defense Secretary Leon Panetta testifies on the Benghazi attacks. With Democrats holding 55 Senate seats, at least four more Republicans would need to join Cochran to eliminate the threat of a filibuster on Hagel’s nomination."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/01/30/gop-sen-cochran-will-back-hagel/

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:35 PM

7. MJ Rosenberg's tweet:

MJ Rosenberg @MJayRosenberg

I spent a couple of hours with Hagel a few years ago. Talked about Israel. Happily, he is lying today & knows it. He'll be a good SeDef.
5:30 PM - 31 Jan 13

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #7)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:37 PM

9. MJ on the case!

He is a riot.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #9)

Fri Feb 1, 2013, 06:43 PM

10. I knew you'd enjoy it. n/t

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