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Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:32 PM

Defend government policy or resign, Israel's ambassadors are told

Top security chief tells envoys to 'quit or go into politics' if they disagree with settlement plans

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"Israeli ambassadors from around the world meeting in Jerusalem for their annual get-together have been told to support the government's domestic and foriegn policies or resign.

Yaakov Amidror, the head of Israel's National Security Council, lashed out at the 150 diplomats, telling them they were "clerks" whose job was to represent and advise the government.

"If this doesn't suit you, quit or run for political office," Mr Amidror told the ambassadors after they applauded a question from Israel's ambassador to the United Nations, Ron Prosor, an ex-ambassador to London and former foreign ministry director-general.

Mr Prosor had queried the timing of a recent Israeli government decision announcing settlement construction in E1, an area of the West Bank east of Jerusalem that Palestinians say is vital for the geographical integrity of their future state. The undiplomatic bust-up, which occurred behind closed doors but was leaked to the press, reflected mounting frustration among Israeli diplomats who feel they are excluded from key areas of foreign policymaking. The two most important arenas of Israeli foreign policy the peace process with the Palestinians and Israel-US relations are handled directly by the Prime Minister, bypassing Israel's regular diplomatic machinery."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/defend-government-policy-or-resign-israels-ambassadors-are-told-8434692.html

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Reply Defend government policy or resign, Israel's ambassadors are told (Original post)
Scurrilous Jan 2013 OP
bemildred Jan 2013 #1
R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2013 #3
bemildred Jan 2013 #5
azurnoir Jan 2013 #2
King_David Jan 2013 #4
oberliner Jan 2013 #6
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #7
King_David Jan 2013 #8
geek tragedy Jan 2013 #9
Scootaloo Jan 2013 #14
Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #15
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #10
azurnoir Jan 2013 #11
bemildred Jan 2013 #12
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #13
Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #16
Jefferson23 Jan 2013 #17
Violet_Crumble Jan 2013 #18
aranthus Jan 2013 #19

Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:41 PM

1. He sounds upset. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 07:29 PM

3. I suppose he is.


Perhaps his ambassadors don't understand the fine art of defending a democracy and apartheid state at the same time.

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:43 PM

5. Well, I'd guess he's upset for some reason, he didn't decide to lecture everybody fortuitously.

So I'd guess somebody did something he considers unsupportive. And I wonder what it was?

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 06:57 PM

2. yikes well okay then

our way or the highway

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Tue Jan 1, 2013, 11:12 PM

4. What do you think ?

Think this is unique to the Israeli government ?

Share your thoughts with the group.

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Response to King_David (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 04:26 AM

6. Good luck getting a response

I think you know better.

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Response to King_David (Reply #4)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 09:52 AM

7. There is considerable dissent within the ranks at the State Department.

Apparently that kind of thing is not tolerated for senior diplomats in the Light Unto Humanity.

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Response to geek tragedy (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:41 AM

8. The Ambasadors too? nt

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Response to King_David (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 10:45 AM

9. Certainly. Do you think they just nod their heads and don't provide

any insight regarding what they hear from their counterparts and how US policy is affecting our standing overseas?

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Response to King_David (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:47 AM

14. Actually I agree with you, this is what ambassadors are supposed to do

And judging from that recent facebook post from the Israeli embassy in Ireland, they communicate Israeli policy exceedingly well!

However, demanding lockstep behind closed doors is a bit beyond the pale. Are they ambassadors, or are they just well-placed hasbara regurgitators? If the latter, any one of the Useful(?) Idiots from this forum could pull it off and would do so completely free of charge

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Response to King_David (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:58 AM

15. Why are you asking a question of someone you know has you on ignore?

From earlier last month http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=26456

Is it for show or something? It seems like a waste of energy to me...

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:40 PM

10. It will be interesting to see if any of them actually quit.

K&R

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 01:45 PM

11. or get fired

but with elections coming in a few weeks there will most likely be some changes anyway

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #10)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:00 PM

12. That would be courageous and prinicipled.

That f**ker could kiss my ass goodbye the day he said that to me.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 2, 2013, 02:04 PM

13. Yep, I agree. n/t

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 04:12 AM

16. Yeah, it would be...

I'm betting none of them will...

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Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #16)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 02:23 PM

17. I'd like very much to be surprised, in a good way, with at least one resignation.

Good to see you Violet.

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Response to Jefferson23 (Reply #17)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:52 PM

18. I'm not holding my breath waiting for any resignations, but I'd love to be proven wrong on this one.

Good to see you too, Jefferson! I'm hoping to spend a bit more time in this group now I've packed it in as a forum host and have more time on my hands

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Response to Scurrilous (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 05:58 PM

19. I don't understand the fuss.

Ambassadors are not supposed to make policy. Their job is to use their best judgment in the exercise of policy set by the government, and to communicate their insights on their station to the government. That includes, by the way, every ambassador to the UN, which is one reason that wretched body should be thoroughly ignored.

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