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Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:01 AM

Gaza attacks on Israel 'violation of laws of war'

Palestinian militants in Gaza violated the laws of war by firing rockets into Israel during last month's conflict, Human Rights Watch (HRW) says.

The New York-based watchdog also said Palestinian civilians were repeatedly put in harm's way when rockets were fired from densely populated areas.
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"Palestinian armed groups made clear in their statements that harming civilians was their aim," said HRW's Middle East director, Sarah Leah Whitson.

"There is simply no legal justification for launching rockets at populated areas."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-20836363

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Reply Gaza attacks on Israel 'violation of laws of war' (Original post)
Fozzledick Dec 2012 OP
Recursion Dec 2012 #1
Scootaloo Dec 2012 #2
oberliner Dec 2012 #3
Scootaloo Dec 2012 #4
King_David Dec 2012 #5
Scootaloo Dec 2012 #8
oberliner Dec 2012 #10
Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #11
zellie Dec 2012 #6
King_David Dec 2012 #7
Violet_Crumble Dec 2012 #9
LeftishBrit Dec 2012 #12
Solindsey Jan 2013 #13

Response to Fozzledick (Original post)

Mon Dec 24, 2012, 11:19 AM

1. Finally! This is the way to go forward

Recognize legitimate belligerency, and then try to mitigate it.

This will also require Hamas and more importantly Islamic Jihad leaders be tried by an international tribune, rather than simply kept in the memory hole by Israel.

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Response to Fozzledick (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 12:37 AM

2. Human Rights Watch is a nazi Jew-hating anti-Israel organization that CAN'T BE TRUSTED!

or so I/P regulars keep assuring me.

This declaration is nothing new for HRW, who have held this position since... uh... well, forever, really.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:00 AM

3. Where do you get this nonsense from?

Please point to a single post from an I/P regular that says HRW is a "nazi Jew-hating" organization.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 02:05 AM

4. Well...

"HRW is run by humanitarian racists....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/11343358#post47

Check out the whole subthread starting here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1134&pid=12946

There's this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/11343456

Now, I would say that the use of "nazi" was hyperbole - and I would point out that you don't care when other hasbara peddlers use it that way - but when the constant message is that Human Rights Watch is a racist next of vipers who hate Israel and want nothing less than the total destruction of Israel and link arms with other anti-Jewish monsters to do so in a grand global conspiracy against the Jewish people? The allusion to naziism is pretty explicit

Also, have you ever heard of Marc Garlasco? See, his grandfather happened to serve in the wehrmacht during WW2, and Mr. Garlasco has a collection of Nazi-era souvenirs. Apparently, That makes him a nazi. His position in HRW of course makes HRW a Nazi hotbed.

This whole shindig is of course aided and abetted by the lobby group, NGO Monitor, who you just got done peddling defenses of. it at least avoids the wild-eyed Khaki-shirt rhetoric, but it still portrays HRW as a diabolical untrustworthy group in league with Israel's enemies due to a witches brew of leftism and irrational hate for Jews.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:12 AM

5. Oh so you can't prove what you said

and go off on a different tangent .

Think if you throw so much information out there in a post that it will be forgot that you were meant to prove an absurd hyperbolic post ,that you were called out on, but couldn't .

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Response to King_David (Reply #5)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 01:01 AM

8. Okay.

Next time some dribbling cretin of a hasbara pimp starts with the "HRW HATES JEWS AND WANTS TO DESTROY ISRAEL," I'll be like "hey - shut the fuck up, hasbara pimp! Dave and Oberliner says they're A-Okay!"

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #8)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:04 AM

10. No one's ever said that

You have these imaginary "cretin(s) of a hasbara pimp" in your mind that don't actually exist here.

It's really odd.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 08:32 AM

11. Yes, there was a lot of effort put into portraying HRW as evil...

Which they already are, according to the 'lip service, too little too late' brigade, or will be next week, according to the (timewarping forward a week here) 'HRW never criticises Hamas!' bunch.

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Response to Fozzledick (Original post)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 10:31 AM

6. A dollar short and years late.

 

Yes, that wrist slap really made a point.

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Response to zellie (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 25, 2012, 01:26 PM

7. This is their attempt at " balance ". nt

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Response to zellie (Reply #6)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 05:29 AM

9. HRW have been criticising the Palestinians for many years now...

I can give you links to a whole bunch of stuff going back years if I thought you were genuinelly interested in it...

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Response to Fozzledick (Original post)

Wed Dec 26, 2012, 10:11 AM

12. So they are; targeting civilians is always wrong.

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Response to Fozzledick (Original post)

Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:13 AM

13. What sane person would defend rocket attacks?

It's a no-brainier. They should never happen.

Meanwhile, that doesn't mean Israel's attacks are any less condemnable and wrong.

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