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Mon Dec 3, 2012, 05:42 PM

 

Israel may now find itself at The Hague - Haaretz

Following UN vote on Palestine, Israel may now find itself at The Hague

Since 1967, Israel has attempted to cement its occupation of the territories while evading international culpability. The Palestinians' successful statehood bid may change that, but it is far from a sure thing.

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahuís decision to build more housing units in the settlements, coming hot on the heels of the United Nations General Assemblyís declaration of Palestine as a non-member observer state, could put Israel on a collision course with the International Criminal Court in The Hague.

Following the UNís decision last Thursday, Palestine may contact the court's prosecutor once again, asking for a hearing on the crimes that are being committed in its territory. The courtís prosecutor may well rule that in light of Palestineís recognition as a state, the court has authority to hear the case.

If Palestine should complain to the court, Article 8(2)(b)(viii) of the courtís statute may be at the center of the case. This article states, in part: ďThe transfer, directly or indirectly, by an occupying power of parts of its own civilian population into the territory it occupies" is a war crime.

This statute is the continuation of a rule in the Fourth Geneva Convention. Israelís past claims that the rule did not apply in the territories may be rejected: The International Court of Justice, also in The Hague, settles legal disputes between countries and gives advisory opinions. When this court gave its advisory opinion over the separation barrier, it ruled that contrary to Israelís position, the Fourth Geneva Convention applied in the territories, including the prohibition against building settlements in occupied territory. This ruling has even greater force now that Palestine has been recognized as a state.

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- Haaretz

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The sooner they get this ball rolling the better! Whatever the result, it'll drive the right-wing Israel government even more mad than the UN vote did last week. The more mad they get, the more mistakes they make. Those 3,000 settlements have A LOT of people unhappy with Israel. The mask is slipping. I had the pleasure of listening to a fantastic radio show (with the highest listenership in the UK) spend so much time talking about the issue concerning settlements. It just warms my heart to know so many British people have so much compassion and a true sense of fairness in their support for an independent Palestine.

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Response to KimonoGirl (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 06:34 PM

1. Even better, what does the "state" of Palestine do with its refugees, both at home...

...and abroad in other mideastern countries?

Will they make "citizens" out of refugees within Gaza and the West Bank?

Will their "caring" supporters just not give a shit....since all this "support" for the cause has never been about Palestinian rights?



Stay tuned.

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Response to shira (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 06:46 PM

2. Why not? Doesn't Israel grant de facto citizenship to Jews from the following communities?

 

1 Azerbaijan
2 China
3 Hong Kong
4 India
5 Iran/Persia
6 Japan
7 Kyrgyzstan
8 Singapore
9 Sri Lanka
10 Tajikistan
11 Uzbekistan

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Response to jody (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 06:50 PM

3. The PLO and Hamas won't allow for a Law of Return similar to that of Israel.

They'll let the refugees continue to rot in camps.

And Palestinian so-called "supporters" won't say a word.

Hamas and the PLO will insist on RoR into Israel. They won't accept refugees as their citizens. Note the irony. A Palestinian state exists, but Palestinian refugees (in the millions) won't be allowed to become citizens of it.

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Response to shira (Reply #3)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 07:18 PM

4. puleez Abbas said that refugees will not automatically get citizenship

nothing more nothing less, if he had said differently we'd be hearing screeches of Abbas will allow known terrorists to become Palestin ian citizens

this is yet another example of Israel's supporters playing damned if they do damned if they don't, no matter what we'll put a negative spin on it

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 08:56 PM

5. LOL. He's on the clock now. So when do refugees get to come back?

50 years?

100 years?

BTW, Abbas never said refugees would ultimately become Palestinian citizens if that's what they wanted.

You're defending the inexcusable once again.

Classy.

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Response to shira (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 11:42 PM

10. then if I am excusing the unexcusable let's see a link backing up your insinuations

okay or are you reluctant for some reason?

Abbas has been on the clock for a couple days but thanks for a preview of future talking points and for proving my prior comment correct

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Response to jody (Reply #2)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:06 PM

7. Uh...Hong Kong is PART of China now. n/t.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:08 PM

8. Mea culpa you are correct. nt

 

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Response to jody (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:09 PM

9. It's all good.

Have a nice day.

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Response to KimonoGirl (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 09:10 PM

6. Good!

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