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Tue Nov 20, 2012, 04:53 PM

Gaza's Victims Too Young To Understand, But Not To Die

(CNN) -- On Monday, the team of grave diggers at Shaikh Radwan Cemetery in Gaza City prepared 15 graves, their busiest morning yet. And they're preparing for more.

One of the slots was for 5-year-old Yusif Al-Dalou. He and eight members of his family were killed Sunday in an Israeli airstrike on their home.

Their bodies were carried through the street to the sound of gunfire under Hamas banners to the cemetery.

After the crowd left and the chanting stopped, friends and relatives prayed quietly.

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http://edition.cnn.com/2012/11/19/world/meast/gaza-scene/

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Reply Gaza's Victims Too Young To Understand, But Not To Die (Original post)
Purveyor Nov 2012 OP
SariesNightly Nov 2012 #1
Purveyor Nov 2012 #2
oberliner Nov 2012 #4
Purveyor Nov 2012 #6
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #7
Purveyor Nov 2012 #9
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #10
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #13
oberliner Nov 2012 #20
TeeYiYi Nov 2012 #3
oberliner Nov 2012 #5
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #8
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #11
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #12
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #14
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #15
kayecy Nov 2012 #16
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #17
kayecy Nov 2012 #18
shira Nov 2012 #19
kayecy Nov 2012 #21

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:14 PM

1. neverending war

no one's proposing any solutions

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Response to SariesNightly (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 09:53 PM

2. Livelihoods and our 'dependents' depend on these 'wars'. They have nothing else to sucker the US

taxpayer into funding.

End of the day...they all get fucked when China shuts off our credit-limit.

Meanwhile, both China and Russia are just sitting on their front porches and humming the happy tune as they know exactly what is happening and are quite pleased with it.

Russia, the 'former' USSR knows this all too well.

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 10:59 PM

4. Wow the tinfoil hat is on rather tightly

This is some serious nuttiness.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:11 PM

6. Cutting to close to the 'bone', eh? So you pull out the ole 'tinfoil' bullshit. Carry on...

I laugh at you and your 'boilerplate' scripts.

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:15 PM

7. "I laugh at you"

 

I'll bet



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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:49 PM

9. Posting pics of your family members again, eh? Do he resemble you? eom

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #7)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:52 PM

10. Oh my where did you get that pic?

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:02 AM

13. At a family reunion ...

 

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:01 AM

20. No I just thought it was some really weird stuff

Normally you just post article without comment so it's been interesting to see a little more of where you are coming from.

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Response to TeeYiYi (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:00 PM

5. Awful that so many children have been killed

Same thing happened last time around.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:16 PM

8. Israeli children are victims too ...

 

... do they not count?

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 20, 2012, 11:53 PM

11. Yes they count.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:01 AM

12. Glad to hear that.

 

The title of the OP definitely implies that they don't

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:06 AM

14. I am against bombs falling on all people. I see the pictures of both sides with the look of terror.

There has to be a better way.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 12:11 AM

15. Of course there's a better way ...

 

... unfortunately, no one can get to a better way as long as they are accusing one side, or the other, of killing babies with glee. It's a war -- your opinion on who started it will vary depending on the date you chose to believe it started -- 1920, 1948, 1967, 2005 or last week. In a war, innocents die -- that's why they suck. But, they die on both sides and ignoring that fact only leads to more war.

Making accusations of that nature are the opposite of a better way.

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #15)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:29 AM

16. A better way is for..........

A better way is for those holding most of the cards to make the bigger compromise........Economic blockades, settlement construction is the opposite of compromise.

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Response to kayecy (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 02:33 AM

17. Daily rocket attacks on your partners ...

 

... in negotiation is pretty much the opposite of being conciliatory.

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 06:49 AM

18. Yup...So are blockades and settlements......

Yup...So are blockades and settlements......So can we agree that both Hamas and Israel are guilty of not having a partner to negotiate with?

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Response to kayecy (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 07:03 AM

19. You said you're against Israel's right to defend against Hamas...

Something about them not being a state actor, so they get to pummel Israel all they want.

So do you believe Israel lifting the blockade will stop those rockets? Hamas has been very clear they don't want peace with Israel and there's nothing Israel can do (stop settlements, etc) to change their minds. Do you not take Hamas at their word?

You're assuming Hamas will play by the same rules Israel will at the negotiating table, that they want peace like everyone else, when there's no evidence for this position.

They will not stop until Israel is destroyed, and Jews are either massacred or expelled.

What should Israel do?

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Response to shira (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 21, 2012, 08:10 AM

21. Neither Hamas nor Israel are prepared to negotiate peace with the other......

What I said was that the concept of self-defence is meaningless in this situation......When an impoverished community has been subjected for many years to inhuman treatment, economic blockades etc, they are bound to resist.....Claiming self-defence against a resitance movement is nonsense......Is there any other western democracy that would bombard a refugee camp and claim it was in self defence?........Such a bombardment is even more henious when you consider that most Gaza residents are refugees are from the area now occupied by Israel.


So do you believe Israel lifting the blockade will stop those rockets? Hamas has been very clear they don't want peace with Israel and there's nothing Israel can do (stop settlements, etc) to change their minds. Do you not take Hamas at their word?



Israel has caused this problem by refusing to allow the refugees to retun to their ancestoral homes......Hamas does not want peace with Israel and Israel has said it will not negotiate with Hamas......In my book that makes them equally guilty of being war-mongers.

If we can agree on that we can move on to discussing what Israel might do in place of bombing.

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