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Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:14 PM

Photos: With Gaza under attack, children pay the price

As I write now, I am back in my home. While I was editing pictures, I could hear the frightening sound of the bombs. The street emptied of cars, and there is almost no light. I moved far away from the window, which can get easily smashed by some of the explosions from nearby.In Al Shifa Hospital, there was total chaos, with so many injured people constantly coming in. When I reached the section where they treated burn injuries, some women collapsed in grief. They had just found out that one-year-old Omar Jihad Masharawi had just died of his wounds. One of the women was his mother.



I had arrived with other photographers. I cannot describe in words what I saw, nor can I post the grim pictures of a burned baby. It is just too horrific.

Later, the father carried Omar to the morgue, sobbing. I went home. I feel nervous, with news coming in about more attacks, more injured. There is nowhere to escape in Gaza.




Israel is attacking a civilian population that has committed no crimes other than being Palestinian. Donít talk to me about rockets. Palestinians have been dispossessed of most of their lands since 1948. The occupation started in 1967. The rockets started in 2001.



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Purveyor Nov 2012 OP
intaglio Nov 2012 #1
azurnoir Nov 2012 #2
R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #14
shira Nov 2012 #15
bemildred Nov 2012 #16
shira Nov 2012 #17
bemildred Nov 2012 #18
shira Nov 2012 #19
bemildred Nov 2012 #20
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #27
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #46
shira Nov 2012 #53
R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #21
shira Nov 2012 #23
R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #25
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #26
aquart Nov 2012 #31
sabrina 1 Nov 2012 #35
shira Nov 2012 #33
LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #40
shira Nov 2012 #41
LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #42
shira Nov 2012 #45
LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #38
shira Nov 2012 #52
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #47
Scurrilous Nov 2012 #3
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #4
R. Daneel Olivaw Nov 2012 #22
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #5
Purveyor Nov 2012 #6
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #7
shira Nov 2012 #10
azurnoir Nov 2012 #28
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #29
LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #43
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #8
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #9
oberliner Nov 2012 #11
shira Nov 2012 #12
oberliner Nov 2012 #13
LeftishBrit Nov 2012 #44
rDigital Nov 2012 #24
aquart Nov 2012 #30
subsuelo Nov 2012 #34
aquart Nov 2012 #37
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #49
oberliner Nov 2012 #32
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #50
morningfog Nov 2012 #55
Mosby Nov 2012 #36
kayecy Nov 2012 #39
azurnoir Nov 2012 #51
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #48
vilify Nov 2012 #54

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:16 PM

1. Thank you for offering some balance n/t

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Thu Nov 15, 2012, 04:40 PM

2. Thank you what is truly saddening is that there are some here

who want this either ignored (of course) claim it's just an oops on IDF's part (unimportant collateral damage) or would otherwise want to make this somehow palatable

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 09:39 AM

14. The little uncomfortable truth that the same characters want to avoid at all costs


by screaming about how bad the Palestinians are is this.

Palestinians have been dispossessed of most of their lands since 1948. The occupation started in 1967. The rockets started in 2001.


I don't want to see Palestinian rockets killing Israelis, or being built for that matter, or the IDF indiscriminately killing Palestinians when they get the itch.

If any nation subjugates a people, whether it is another group or their own citizens, to the point that these same people feel they have to other choice then to rebel then the UN should attempt have final jurisdiction over these same people: providing humanitarian and political support if necessary. Understandably, that is not always possible considering the hostility of the host country, but once that country becomes so insensitive or inured to the suffering or objections of one group over the other needs of the other then they have lost the right to administer to that group of people.

Gaza has become a ghetto. Its inhabitants prisoners. This is clear to any person or persons that have the ability to see and reason beyond the myopic lens of colonialism.

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #14)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:01 AM

15. Here's what you're avoiding with your narrative...

They have choices.

Gaza is hardly the only nation on the planet that's occupied, or it's people stateless. The question you have to ask yourself is why is this type of 'resistance' happening only WRT the Arab/Israel conflict, and no other?

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Response to shira (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:10 AM

16. Children have choices? Babies? Women? They got it coming?

Is that what you say?

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Response to bemildred (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:12 AM

17. Palestinians are responsible people. They have choices. They're not babies or mentally deficient...

They could have chosen to make Gaza into a paradise after the 2005 withdrawal.

They chose poorly.

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Response to shira (Reply #17)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:14 AM

18. I'm asking about the babies, children, and women? Do they have it coming?

Are we supposed to think those children have choices? Are responsible?

Have a nice day.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:18 AM

19. No, they don't. Israel is focusing on stopping Hamas...

And the more you try equating Israel's defensive countermeasures to Hamas' intent to mass murder, the more you sanitize their vile actions.

FWIW, Israeli babies, children, and women do not have it coming either. WTF is Israel supposed to do? Lie back and enjoy hundreds of rockets?

Which other country on this planet would take that and not do what Israel is doing, or worse?

Name one.

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Response to shira (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 10:20 AM

20. Have a nice day. nt

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Response to shira (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:43 AM

27. Do you think blowing up Palestinians is a good solution to the problem?

Is it actually solving the issue?

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Response to shira (Reply #17)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:36 PM

46. You can't dol anything positive in a country that doesn't control its own airspace

where fisherman aren't allowed to fish more than three miles offshore(thus making actual catching of fish impossible)and where it's effectively impossible to come and go as you please.

There was no chance to make anything better for anyone in Gaza under those conditions. You can ONLY improve your country when it is totally free of outside interference.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #46)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:05 PM

53. Hamas didn't try to do anything positive, declare peace, recognize Israel....

...renounce terror, trade with Israel, collaborate on projects, etc.

Nothing.

It's not that it's impossible. They never even tried and you're here making excuses for them.

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Response to shira (Reply #15)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:02 AM

21. Actually it is apparent that you didn't read what I wrote.


If any nation subjugates a people, whether it is another group or their own citizens, to the point that these same people feel they have to other choice then to rebel then the UN should attempt have final jurisdiction over these same people: providing humanitarian and political support if necessary. Understandably, that is not always possible considering the hostility of the host country, but once that country becomes so insensitive or inured to the suffering or objections of one group over the other needs of the other then they have lost the right to administer to that group of people.

It has become increasingly apparent that you don't read what other people post so, like bemildred, all I have to say to you is have a nice day.

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Response to R. Daneel Olivaw (Reply #21)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:41 AM

23. Your reading comprehension needs work. I wrote directly in response to you...

You were posting about people who feel they have no other choice than to fire rockets at Israel. My response was based on that nonsense.

Israeli subjugation is bullshit considering they've offered Palestinians their own state several times. Desperate people would have, at the very least, either taken the offer or they would have made a reasonable counter-offer. The desperate victims you champion felt they needed to start an Intifada in response to Israel's offer.

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Response to shira (Reply #23)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:29 AM

25. Have a nice day.

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Response to shira (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:36 AM

26. Are you really saying that people in occupied countries do not

fight for their freedom, only in Palestine? '

That is utter nonsense. When someone's land is stolen they will fight for centuries to get it back. See Ireland, for 8 hundred years they refused to accept the occupation of their land. The British tried to paint Irish heroes as 'terrorists' also. But finally, after 800 years, they prevailed and those 'terrorists' many of them executed, are now heroes.

Until Israel shows some indication that they are interested in peace and not the occupation of land that does not belong to them, there will be resistance. At the very least they should accept that.

And today's 'terrorists' will be Palestinian heroes in the future when eventually they have their freedom. History will write the narrative on who is and who is not a terrorist.

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:12 AM

31. Freedom?

You think Gaza is viable as a nation? How would that work?

Your freedom is the massacre of MILLIONS OF ISRAELIS. Oh wait. You expect them to self-deport.

To where?

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Response to aquart (Reply #31)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:58 PM

35. You expect the Palestinians to self deport?

What should be done with Palestinians in your opinion? You seem to be saying there is no two state solution? Is that Israel's position?

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Response to sabrina 1 (Reply #26)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 07:40 AM

33. Not like the Palestinians do. Not even close....

People don't fight for freedom vowing to obliterate the other country and mass murder its civilians. Suicide bombs? Rockets into the other's territory? Pallywood campaign to demonize?

That's not happening elsewhere.

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Response to shira (Reply #33)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:36 AM

40. Yes they do. Look what's happening in the Congo, for example.

Thousands of people, many of them civilians, killed by the conflict, and yet more through the famine and disease that are indirect results of the conflict. MUCH worse than anything that's happened on either side of the I/P conflict.

'Pallywood campaign to demonize?' - ALL groups in any violent conflict demonize the others, and use propaganda against them. As has been said, 'The first casualty of war is truth.'

You are exceptionalizing the Palestinians in exactly the same way that some other people and groups exceptionalize the Israelis.


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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #40)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:49 AM

41. No, they don't. Again, freedom fighters....

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...do not vow to obliterate the other nation and its people. This is not what freedom fighters who have been offered a state (many times) do. Desperate stateless people do not resort to suicide attacks and rockets against a nation willing to give them what they're asking for (land on pre-1967 WB/Gaza territory).

Also, this support for Hamas is unique. Let's be honest here and call support for Hamas for what it is. The UN supports them, so do NGO's, and much of the media. All are in on, or part of, Pallywood productions to demonize Jews. They believe rockets are legitimate resistance. That Israel really has no right to defend. That's why we see so little condemnation from the UN, NGO's, media, flotillistas, etc...of Hamas' use of women and children as shields, using children as militants, or their rocketry. It's support of Hamas. If Hamas were to start suicide bombings again, the world wouldn't allow Israel to defend against that either. That's pure, unadulterated 100% anti-semitism. And in no way is it progressive.

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Response to shira (Reply #41)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:10 AM

42. People who regard themselves as 'freedom fighters' have killed thousands over the years

Do you seriously think that Palestinians are worse than anyone on the planet, or even that Palestinian terrorist groups are worse than any other terrorist groups on the planet? Because that's what you're sounding like. As though no one in modern history has EVER been as evil as the Palestinians; as though they are somehow utterly unique.

It's just as much rubbish, as when people act as though no one has ever been as bad as Israel and ignore the fact that our own countries have been involved in long-term bombing in two countries recently.

I detest and condemn Hamas, but they are not the only nasty terrorist/warmongering group in the world; nor is the I/P conflict the only one that is happening, even in the Middle East. What about Syria? And while one party is definitely the oppressor there, one can't deny that there is violence on all sides.


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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #42)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:21 PM

45. In no other conflict is an entity as evil as Hamas been as successfully represented...

....as freedom fighters and poor victims desperate for their own land and peace; and they could not do so as successfully without the help of the UN, NGO's, and the MSM (the so-called human rights community).

In no other conflict is such a grotesquely ultra-rightwing theocratic, regressive, misogynistic, homophobic, antisemitic organization defended by progressives AGAINST a genuinely liberal/progressive democracy that is demonized as though it were a mix between fascist Germany and apartheid S.Africa.

Hamas' true character is denied and ignored by so-called leftists. All they do to women, gays, and children is written off as morally equivalent to what a progressive democracy like Israel does on a daily basis (what Israel does is supposedly exponentially worse). In no way does a Marx, Luxemburg, Kausky, or Engels ever support or do propaganda for such a psychotic entity.

Hamas is largely what they are BECAUSE of all that support. It's unprecedented. If they and others like them were rightly condemned for the disgusting entity they are, we'd be a lot closer to peace these days. Contrary to popular opinion, they do react to being humiliated and shamed.

Finally, let's not equate Hamas to Palestinians in general. I'm pretty sure that the Palestinians Hamas victimizes daily don't appreciate that.

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Response to shira (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:21 AM

38. Much as I detest Hamas and its violence, do you seriously think that Palestine is the ONLY group or

nation on the planet that engages in violent resistance? Including terrorism against civilians? That is simply not true. It happens in many places. I am not saying that it SHOULD happen, in Palestine or anywhere else. But I am saying that it DOES happen. For example, it was happening in the UK until the 1990s (the Provisional IRA and spin-offs, and the Protestant 'paramilitary' i.e. terrorist, groups)




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Response to LeftishBrit (Reply #38)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:04 PM

52. They're the only group where resistance via terror is justified, legal, proper....

...sanitized, whitewashed, explained away, and defended by the human rights community. Their antisemitic demonizing Pallywood attempts going back decades wouldn't be happening without supportive westerners, ngo's, the UN, media, and flottidiots. In no other situation on the planet and in modern history is there such a collaborative effort WRT total war vs. a liberal/progressive nation. A vile, unprecedented effort that unites the most ultra rightwing fascists, David Dukes, and BNP'ers with hard leftists.

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Response to shira (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:37 PM

47. The people of Gaza could never get rid of Hamas.

They live at its mercy. And Hamas is militarily invincible.

It is unfair and immoral to punish the people for what the leaders do.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Fri Nov 16, 2012, 11:42 PM

3. Thanks.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 12:19 AM

4. God forgive us for this madness.

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 11:03 AM

22. This is probably the smartest thing that I have read here with regards to I/P


in a long time.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:32 AM

5. "Donít talk to me about rockets..."

 

This is why there will never be peace ... only one side can be right which means only one side can win.

Until you're willing to discuss the rockets, you can't expect the other side to discuss the missiles.

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:52 AM

6. And of course...only 'your side' is right, eh? Want to put up the civilian casualty counts? eom

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:07 AM

7. Did you even read what I wrote?

 

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Response to Purveyor (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:47 AM

10. Civilian counts? IOW, not enough Israelis have died yet. Thanks. n/t

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Response to shira (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:45 AM

28. Nobody said any such thing

but perhaps the idea of too many (Palestinian) deaths is foreign to you ?

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #28)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 12:57 AM

29. You can always count on Shira to say the oddest things

I'm starting to suspect it's performance art.

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Response to shira (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:12 AM

43. How about it being 'too many Palestinians' rather than 'not enough Israelis'?

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:14 AM

8. It's not an unreasonable sentiment in the writer's circumstances

After you go through a war zone, see the dead, meet the grieving families... No, you don't want to hear the other sides' justifications right then. I think that's pretty understandable, it's a human empathy thing.

You're looking at someone who's still dealing with what they've just experienced. Don't take the sentiments too deeply.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 02:20 AM

9. Agreed ...

 

... but until the empathetic hyperbole is taken out of this discussion all you're going to see is more bloodshed on both sides.

Fanning the flames is counterproductive unless your goal is to achieve more suffering. In that case, it's just the right way to go about it.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 05:25 AM

11. Hamas has a lot of blood on their hands

Their leadership simply had no regard for the safety of the people of Gaza, including the children.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 07:10 AM

12. Their rockets/mortars blow up Gazans too...

http://www.gaza-nso.org/?p=reports&id=1

The fail rate of their rockets/mortars is somewhere b/w 30-40%. Meaning that those rockets/mortars never make it across the border. They're exploding within Gaza, harming Palestinians.

Now where's the outrage?

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Response to shira (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 08:21 AM

13. Not to mention the Palestinian citizens of Israel

Whom they also seem to have no regard for with their indiscriminate rocket fire.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #11)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 08:16 AM

44. Hamas has probably indeed killed more Palestinians than it has killed Israelis.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sat Nov 17, 2012, 01:38 PM

24. I have an idea, maybe they should quit hiding rockets where children sleep. nt

 

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:06 AM

30. How hard would it be to take the children through the Rafah gate To safety in Egypt?

Can you show me evidence of that rescue/relief effort?

Lotta talk about supporting the Palestinians. Turkey and Jordan are awash in Syrian refugees. How many tents has Egypt set up?

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Response to aquart (Reply #30)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 09:34 AM

34. Probably about as hard as it would be for Israelis to take their children elsewhere

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Response to subsuelo (Reply #34)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 03:55 AM

37. Israeli apartments have bomb shelters.

Saw it on House Hunters International.

Palestinians have loudly proclaimed Egyptian support. And Egypt controls the Rafah Gate.

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Response to aquart (Reply #37)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:40 PM

49. Irrelevant.

Egypt has blockaded Gaza on Israeli orders(that was the ONLY reason Mubarak ever did it...there was no justification otherwise for Egypt to prevent Gazans from leaving, since Gazans never did anything to Egyptians).

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 07:24 AM

32. O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the Lord

Isaiah 2:2

And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem. And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:40 PM

50. A passage that indicts both sides...war can never be stopped BY war.

IT is impossible to kill your way to peace...and all killing is the same.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #32)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 07:56 PM

55. It's been last days since that passage was written.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Sun Nov 18, 2012, 01:36 PM

36. Hamas Targets Kids

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Response to Mosby (Reply #36)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:24 AM

39. Israel doesn't target kids but kills them nevertheless

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09.00GMT Monday BBC reports:

80 Israeli attacks overnight killing another 18, mainly civilians.

3 Hamas rockets between midnight and dawn killing NO kids, NO civilians.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #36)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:43 PM

51. yes only Palestinians target children but I'm confused when did they get guidance systems

for their missiles ? and doesn't Israel reputedly do surgical strikes? but of course only Palestinians target people Israel only has accidents

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 04:38 PM

48. The rockets are wrong, but they don't justify THIS...

And it goes without saying that what the Israelis are doing here can't possibly get rid of Hamas at all.

Don't punish civilians for what the bad leaders do. There is nothing the people of Gaza could do to control Hamas' choices.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Mon Nov 19, 2012, 05:18 PM

54. All this is over greed.

 

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