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Tue Nov 13, 2012, 10:50 AM

Palestinians Begin Work To Open Arafat Grave: Source

By Agence France-Presse
Tuesday, November 13, 2012 7:05 EST

Palestinians on Tuesday began work to open the grave of the late Yasser Arafat ahead of an exhumation of his body for a murder probe, a source close to his family told AFP.

“Today they started removing concrete and stones from Arafat’s mausoleum and the work will last for almost 15 days,” the source said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

“There are several phases,” he said, referring to the operation to open the tomb ahead of a visit by French, Swiss and Russian experts to forensically test Arafat’s remains over suspicions he was poisoned with the radioactive substance polonium.

“It starts with the removal of stone and concrete and cutting the iron (framework) until they reach the soil that covers the body, which will not be removed until the arrival of the French prosecutors, Swiss experts and Russian investigators,” the source said.

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Purveyor Nov 2012 OP
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #1
King_David Nov 2012 #3
Ken Burch Nov 2012 #4
King_David Nov 2012 #5
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #7
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #9
King_David Nov 2012 #11
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #13
ProgressiveProfessor Nov 2012 #17
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #22
Mosby Nov 2012 #2
azurnoir Nov 2012 #8
King_David Nov 2012 #12
azurnoir Nov 2012 #14
King_David Nov 2012 #16
azurnoir Nov 2012 #19
King_David Nov 2012 #23
azurnoir Nov 2012 #24
Mosby Nov 2012 #18
azurnoir Nov 2012 #20
Mosby Nov 2012 #21
holdencaufield Nov 2012 #6
Scootaloo Nov 2012 #10
oberliner Nov 2012 #15

Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:52 PM

1. Hopefully, this will be clarified once and for all.

A clear cause of death is crucial here.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:03 PM

3. I doubt it.

They should get justice Goldstone to do the autopsy ?

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Response to King_David (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:57 PM

4. It's in Israel's interest as well

for a clear Cause of Death to be established here as well...to put the conspiracy-mongering to rest.

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Response to King_David (Reply #3)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:13 PM

5. It's not possible that the results will be accurate

I can write the report right now and save the "unbiased" coroner the trouble of doing an autopsy..they will point to Israel as the culprits... There will be Israeli flags burnt.. Death to the Jews chants in Cairo , Istanbul , Gaza and Tehran. And they will conclude that Israel is an apartheid state that shrinks penis' and eats babies blood in the matzah.

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Response to King_David (Reply #5)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:23 PM

7. Shhhh...

 

... we're not supposed to talk about the matzot in front of the oyim-gay.

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Response to King_David (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:50 AM

9. Please proceed, Dave.

Tell us about Goldstone. I'm deeply interested in hearing your in-depth opinion.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:53 AM

11. He apologized and retracted his bogus ruling.

No Nobel prize for the Justice ,

How's that for in depth ?

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Response to King_David (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:58 AM

13. Shallow, as befits you.

Also mythological in whole, but hey... that also fits you Carry on.

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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 11:10 AM

17. What was incorrect in his summary

Goldstone backed away from his own study...though he blamed others for its obvious failings.

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Response to ProgressiveProfessor (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 04:46 PM

22. It was not retracted, for one

There's an actual methods for retracting this stuff, and neither Goldstone nor the three other people that conducted the commission have retracted it.

Further, he has not "backed away," even. He amended a single conclusion reached by the commission, out of about one hundred and ten conclusions (I forget the exact number off the top of my head.) The conclusion was reached because, with the data at hand, it was the only one that could be reached.

As for blaming others.... yes, when the major operating force in a conflict refuses to provide even small scraps of information to a fact-finding commission, it's kind of that force's fault when their information is not considered and presented by the commission.

Anyway. Last time I had this talk, my counterpart went into antisemitic screaming jags about Goldstone. So, let's just avoid that, and pretend we had a sixty-page argument that led to neither of us accepting the others conclusions.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 12:45 AM

8. that could be true however

intravascular coagulation is a symptom like a sneeze, it doesn't say what caused it much like a sneeze

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:54 AM

12. Being a person who graduated from medical school .. I say...

Ha ha ha ha...

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Response to King_David (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 03:14 AM

14. ah so your an MD well being a person who survived intravascular coagulation I am kind of relieved

that my attending Physician(s) did not think the same and pursued the underlying cause

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 09:56 AM

16. Yep

And he probably knew what a symptom was too .

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Response to King_David (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:27 PM

19. ah but so do I and in my case it was listed among presenting symptoms

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but if you wish we can play a game I'll give you the other symptoms and you as a Doctor who is a citizen of what was it at least 3 countries or is it 4 can't remember now fluent in how many languages was again? and you can do a Dx, now of course you could these days most likely Google it and be in the ballpark but what the heck

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:20 PM

23. You may have had signs and symptoms of DIC

But DIC is not a symptom ...

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Response to King_David (Reply #23)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 06:24 PM

24. as I said it was listed with presenting symptoms along with a few other test results

the blood draw took place with in minutes of my arrival in the ER because of other presenting symptoms such as BP of 58/36 and no I was not self ambulating

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:15 PM

18. well we know for sure what wasn't the cause - poison. nt.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:31 PM

20. If memory serves I believe I've read that cirrhosis of the liver was a possibility n/t

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 02:45 PM

21. cancer, liver disease, sepsis, snake bites and some infections

Can cause DIV, so you are correct about liver problems.

There are other causes as well.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 07:22 PM

6. Can this please wait ...

 

... until Halloween 2013?

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 01:57 AM

10. You know, with a HL of 138 days... And seeing as Arafat's been in there since 2004...

I don't think they'd find anything interesting even if it was there to find.

And if they did, Russia's nuclear reactors are pretty much the only source for the particular isotope supposedly found in his effects.

I maintain they're barking up a flag pole that they think is a tree.

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Response to Purveyor (Original post)

Wed Nov 14, 2012, 08:39 AM

15. This is a fabulous idea

I see nothing but positive things coming from this.

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