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Sun Nov 11, 2012, 01:16 PM

Israel 'may launch ground invasion into Gaza'

Source: The Telegraph

Israel 'may launch ground invasion into Gaza'

By Phoebe Greenwood, Jerusalem
4:38PM GMT 11 Nov 2012

By lunchtime on Sunday, more than 70 rockets and mortars had landed in Israel from Gaza within 24 hours, leaving six Palestinians killed and eight Israelis injured.

At a cabinet meeting on Sunday morning, Mr Netanyahu, the Israeli prime minister, said: "The world needs to understand that Israel will not sit idly by in the face of attempts to attack us. We are prepared to intensify the response."

One unnamed senior Israeli government official, said: "A ground incursion is certainly not out of the question although we hope it won't come to that."

The Israeli Defence Forces (IDF) has confirmed that it is expecting, at the very least, instruction to intensify its campaign of air strikes on Hamas targets.

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Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/middleeast/israel/9670296/Israel-may-launch-ground-invasion-into-Gaza.html

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Eugene Nov 2012 OP
King_David Nov 2012 #1
shaayecanaan Nov 2012 #2
shira Nov 2012 #3
Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #4
oberliner Nov 2012 #5
shira Nov 2012 #6
Alamuti Lotus Nov 2012 #8
Violet_Crumble Nov 2012 #7

Response to Eugene (Original post)

Sun Nov 11, 2012, 02:41 PM

1. I wonder why Hamas wants a ground invasion ? nt

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Response to King_David (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 12:53 AM

2. They don't

and neither does Israel, particularly. The current ruckus started when an Israeli soldier was badly injured trying to close down a tunnel, and additionally when a Palestinian boy was killed by Israeli tank fire.

Hamas had to respond in order to keep up appearances, after all, you can't let them kill a kid without some retribution. And equally, Israel then had to respond so as to protect their own "honour".

Duelling aristocrats in centuries past had a custom called "deloping", which essentially meant that one or both of the duellers would deliberately fire their pistol to miss. They didn't want to kill anyone, they only wanted to uphold their honour against some perceived slight, and staging a duel was the only accepted way to do it.

Both sides want to exact some punishment against the other, but without inflaming the situation into all-out war. So they will go through the motions, exchange some rhetoric, and then we will wait for the next war.

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Response to shaayecanaan (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 06:47 AM

3. Hamas had to respond to a boy being killed? Are you serious?

Where do you get this shit from?

Do you just make it up?

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Response to shira (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 12, 2012, 11:55 PM

4. Are you unaware of the recent killing of Ahmad Abu Dagah?

 

The mother of Ahmed Abu Dagah, who was killed by gunfire from Israeli forces, mourns during his funeral in Khan Younis in the southern Gaza Strip November 9, 2012. Gunfire from Israeli forces killed the Palestinian boy, Abu Dagah, in the Gaza Strip on Thursday, local medics said, during border clashes between the Israeli military and Palestinian militants. Israeli military officials said soldiers who were engaged in "routine activity" adjacent to the security fence came under attack from Palestinian militants and responded "by firing at suspicious locations".

http://www.demotix.com/news/1583363/funeral-held-young-palestinian-boy-caught-cross-fire/all-media

"suspicious locations" apparently include "the body of a young child"; I can see the logic, he'd probably just grow up to throw rocks in a few years, they'd have to shoot him later anyway.

But, I heard some IOF forces were mildy inconvenienced in the process. There may be some of these poor, defenseless heros treated for shock or some other debilitating impact of being forced to shoot a child. I agree with my anticipation of your reaction(*)--these are the real victims here and need more attention. Probably just some Pallywood invention anyway; the acting classes are paying off, the rage and grief looks almost believable in their obviously anti-semetic conspiracy to defame the Israeli military. What valid right could they possibly have to be angered when Israel was just exercising its singularly-allocated right of 'defending itself'?



(*)--if that whole screed wasn't just a mess of dark sarcasm, I'd scold myself for such dubious construction of that phrase..

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Response to Alamuti Lotus (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:20 AM

5. Were there any nearby Palestinians shooting at Israelis?

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Was the child killed in the crossfire of violence between the two sides?

Or did the Israelis just kill a child for kicks?

That certainly seems like your perception of reality.

Maybe actually read the news story without your bias glasses and see what you can find out.

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Response to Alamuti Lotus (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 05:51 AM

6. Oh, so that's it. I thought Hamas was too busy beating women....

....who, just like the Israelis, deserve it.

Hamas police attack women gathering with sticks
http://gulfnews.com/news/region/palestinian-territories/hamas-police-attack-women-gathering-with-sticks-1.1101732

Gaza police beat female activists
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=92433



The point being, Hamas needs no reason to go to war with anyone.

They're psychopaths.

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Response to shira (Reply #6)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 03:45 PM

8. Nicholas Cage's hair is a bird and your argument is invalid

 

that is awful, unsurpising, and actually completely irrelevant to the discussion at hand. Please stay on-topic. Instead of advancing your propaganda agenda through the usual barrage of non-sequitors, please go back and re-read shaay's post about Hamas "having to respond to keep up appearances". Now that you know about the event in question, you might not be so confused about the greater meaning of it. Then again, I imagine that quite a lot of things about this world confuse you if it isn't explained through the hasbara prism, so having this extra knowledge might not be of help. But for me, please try anyway.

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Response to Alamuti Lotus (Reply #4)

Tue Nov 13, 2012, 06:15 AM

7. The killing of the Palestinian boy was posted as an OP here last week...

It fell quickly as there was no Pallywood slant to run with, and an angle hadn't been developed where Palestinians could be blamed for killing him. It's understandable that it passed unnoticed by some


Palestinian Teen Killed By Israeli Fire In Gaza: Medics

08 NOVEMBER 2012 - 18H26

AFP - A Palestinian teenager died on Thursday after being hit by bullets fired from an Israeli helicopter near Khan Yunis in the southern Gaza Strip, a medical official told AFP.

Ashraf al-Qudra, spokesman for Gaza's Hamas-run health ministry, named the victim as 13-year-old Hmeid Abu Daqqa, and said he had been killed near the border.

"Thirteen-year-old Hmeid Yunes Abu Daqqa was killed by bullets fired from an Israeli helicopter during an incursion in Abasan and Al-Qarara," he said, referring to two neighbourhoods east of Khan Yunis.

MORE...

http://www.france24.com/en/20121108-palestinian-teen-killed-israeli-fire-gaza-medics

http://www.democraticunderground.com/113420638

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