Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:40 AM
azurnoir (26,637 posts)
On Facebook, IDF illustrates Palestinian violence - with photo from Bahrain
On October 17, the Israeli military posted the above infographic on its Facebook page. The image includes a photograph of a young masked man holding a firebomb and featuring statistics regarding the number of firebomb attacks against Israelis in the West Bank since the start of 2012. The Israeli military urges Facebook users to share the image “because the mainstream media will not.”
This powerful image has nothing to do with Judea, Samaria, Palestinians or Israelis. It was shot by Reuters photographer Hamad I Mohammed during protests in the Bahraini village of Salmabad last April. The Israeli military’s decision to use foreign photos to illustrate attacks in the West Bank as part of its propaganda efforts (without indicating that the image is only an illustration) may raise some interesting questions about its own ethical perception and standards. This is not the first time the army has faced this particular criticism. In June, the army marked gay pride month by posting a photograph of two male Israeli soldiers holding hands. It was later revealed that the two soldiers are not a couple and only one of them is gay. http://972mag.com/on-facebook-idf-illustrates-palestinian-violence-with-photo-from-bahrain/58550/
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25 replies, 1096 views
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| azurnoir | Oct 2012 | OP | |
| Scurrilous | Oct 2012 | #1 | |
| azurnoir | Oct 2012 | #4 | |
| Scootaloo | Oct 2012 | #2 | |
| azurnoir | Oct 2012 | #3 | |
| oberliner | Oct 2012 | #5 | |
| Scootaloo | Oct 2012 | #6 | |
| azurnoir | Oct 2012 | #8 | |
| Violet_Crumble | Oct 2012 | #9 | |
| oberliner | Oct 2012 | #16 | |
| shira | Oct 2012 | #10 | |
| azurnoir | Oct 2012 | #13 | |
| shira | Oct 2012 | #14 | |
| azurnoir | Oct 2012 | #18 | |
| shaayecanaan | Oct 2012 | #19 | |
| azurnoir | Oct 2012 | #20 | |
| oberliner | Oct 2012 | #24 | |
| King_David | Oct 2012 | #21 | |
| shaayecanaan | Oct 2012 | #22 | |
| Violet_Crumble | Oct 2012 | #23 | |
| Shaktimaan | Nov 2012 | #25 | |
| Violet_Crumble | Oct 2012 | #7 | |
| oberliner | Oct 2012 | #17 | |
| shaayecanaan | Oct 2012 | #11 | |
| azurnoir | Oct 2012 | #12 | |
| oberliner | Oct 2012 | #15 |
Response to azurnoir (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 01:50 AM
Scurrilous (24,652 posts)
1. MostMoralWood!!1!
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Response to Scurrilous (Reply #1)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:27 AM
azurnoir (26,637 posts)
4. LOl nice to see back n/t
Response to azurnoir (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 02:18 AM
Scootaloo (5,877 posts)
2. Meh, they all look alike, right?
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One Arab somewhere is exactly the same as another Arab somewhere else, right?
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Response to Scootaloo (Reply #2)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:27 AM
azurnoir (26,637 posts)
3. well it could appear that way
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Response to azurnoir (Original post)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 03:56 AM
oberliner (22,141 posts)
5. They should have used one of these instead
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Response to oberliner (Reply #5)
Sun Oct 28, 2012, 04:29 AM
Scootaloo (5,877 posts)
6. Well, remember, this is a "sell" to Americans
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The goal is to get Americans to support letting the IDF kill the guy in the picture. As we can see from your pictures, the targets are apparently thirteen year-olds.
Hard to sell gunning down a 'tween to Americans. Well. Maybe not all Americans. |
Response to oberliner (Reply #5)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:30 AM
azurnoir (26,637 posts)
8. I would like the sources of those photos why do you think IDF did not use
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one of those as they are quite evocative
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #8)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 08:33 AM
Violet_Crumble (29,250 posts)
9. All you have to do is view the properties of each image...
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I'm pretty sure the images of youngsters throwing molotov cocktails at what's most likely the IDF wouldn't have the sort of emotional effect the IDF is hoping for...
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #8)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:23 AM
oberliner (22,141 posts)
16. Maybe they couldn't get the rights
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I have no idea how that kind of thing works.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #5)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:06 AM
shira (18,060 posts)
10. Or these...
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Response to shira (Reply #10)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:52 AM
azurnoir (26,637 posts)
13. thanks for the hat tip to the stock photo site
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Last edited Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:53 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) so why do you think IDF did not use pictures of bona fide, real in the flesh Palestinian terrorist rather than making stuff up?
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #13)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:56 AM
shira (18,060 posts)
14. I don't know why the false posting when there are so many...
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Last edited Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:00 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) ...photos of Palestinians throwing firebombs.
They should retract and apologize. The longer they keep it up, the longer it remains a gift for Israel haters. |
Response to shira (Reply #14)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:59 PM
azurnoir (26,637 posts)
18. ah but just think of the photo ops that some here will be missing
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it must be quite satisfying, in some manner
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #18)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:15 PM
shaayecanaan (3,808 posts)
19. Just as long as they miss these photo ops...
Nearly four years after Israel littered southern Lebanon with mines during its devastating war with Hezbollah, teenager Mohammed al-Hajj Mussa can barely bring himself to speak of the day he lost his legs.But Israel left a deadly legacy: the United Nations estimates that Israeli jets dropped more than four million cluster bombs in southern Lebanon in the summer battles. Ninety percent of the bombs were dropped in the final 72 hours before the ceasefire after Resolution 1701 was adopted, the United Nations says. Around 40 percent of the munitions failed to detonate on impact, rendering them de facto anti-personnel mines. The munitions have killed 46 and maimed over 300 civilians since 2006, according to Lebanese army and UN figures. |
Response to shaayecanaan (Reply #19)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 07:23 PM
azurnoir (26,637 posts)
20. 'strange' how rarely we see those photos
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #20)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 06:38 AM
oberliner (22,141 posts)
24. You ought to check out 972mag
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They run photos like this all the time.
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Response to shaayecanaan (Reply #19)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:39 PM
King_David (4,635 posts)
21. Or these
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Five-year-old Lior Ben Shimmel who was seriously wounded when a rocket directly hit her neighbor’s home, where she was playing Jan. 16, 2008 http://www.theisraelproject.org/site/c.hsJPK0PIJpH/b.3831671/ |
Response to King_David (Reply #21)
Tue Oct 30, 2012, 09:10 AM
shaayecanaan (3,808 posts)
22. Indeed
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a terrible thing to happen to a young girl, even if the blogger in question saw fit to exaggerate her injuries (the official IDF report of the incident described her shrapnel wounds as "moderate" rather than "serious"):-
http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/Terrorism-+Obstacle+to+Peace/Hamas+war+against+Israel/Sderot+MDA+emloyees+treat+grandchildren+wounded+by+Kassams+16-Jan-2008.htm |
Response to shaayecanaan (Reply #19)
Wed Oct 31, 2012, 03:19 AM
Violet_Crumble (29,250 posts)
23. You just broke things!
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Yr not supposed to post a picture of an Arab kid who's a victim of violence at the hands of Israel. Yr only supposed to do that if the kid's Israeli and the violence is at the hand of Arabs. Everything gets all mixed up and confusing when you break the stereotype thingy the way you just did...
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Response to azurnoir (Reply #13)
Thu Nov 1, 2012, 08:49 PM
Shaktimaan (4,403 posts)
25. seems simple to me.
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The photo they used was far and away the best one. All of these other ones people are posting look very low rent and crappy.
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Response to azurnoir (Original post)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 03:44 AM
Violet_Crumble (29,250 posts)
7. Pretty unethical tactics from the Most Moral Army In the World™
Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #7)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 01:04 PM
oberliner (22,141 posts)
17. Can you explain what "unethical tactics" are being used here exactly?
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Enquiring minds want to know.
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Response to azurnoir (Original post)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:15 AM
shaayecanaan (3,808 posts)
11. "Judea and Samaria" seems to be becoming the official term, I see...
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Last edited Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:22 AM USA/ET - Edit history (1) it used to be only used by right-wing settler ideologues.
Then again, "right-wing settler ideologue" is pretty much the political consensus in Israel these days. |
Response to shaayecanaan (Reply #11)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:30 AM
azurnoir (26,637 posts)
12. ya that struck me too n/t
Response to shaayecanaan (Reply #11)
Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:21 AM
oberliner (22,141 posts)
15. The IDF has always used this terminology
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Since 1968, Judea and Samaria has been the official Israeli term corresponding to the territory usually referred to as the West Bank including its Israeli settlements but without the East Jerusalem area.
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