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Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:09 AM

Israel‘S Formula For A Starvation Diet

By Jonathan Cook

Wednesday, October 24, 2012


Excerpts: "But a rather different picture emerges as one reads the small print. While the health ministry determined that Gazans needed daily an average of 2,279 calories each to avoid malnutrition – requiring 170 trucks a day – military officials then found a host of pretexts to whittle down the trucks to a fraction of the original figure.

The reality was that, in this period, an average of only 67 trucks – much less than half of the minimum requirement – entered Gaza daily. This compared to more than 400 trucks before the blockade began.

To achieve this large reduction, officials deducted trucks based both on an over-generous assessment of how much food could be grown locally and on differences in the ”culture and experience” of food consumption in Gaza, a rationale never explained.

Gisha, the organisation that fought for the document’s publication, observes that Israeli officials ignored the fact that the blockade had severely impaired Gaza’s farming industry, with a shortage of seeds and chickens that had led to a dramatic drop in food output."

More: http://www.zcommunications.org/israel-s-formula-for-a-starvation-diet-by-jonathan-cook

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polly7 Oct 2012 OP
holdencaufield Oct 2012 #1
Mimosa Oct 2012 #3
oberliner Oct 2012 #5
holdencaufield Oct 2012 #6
Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #12
shaayecanaan Oct 2012 #19
Mimosa Oct 2012 #2
oberliner Oct 2012 #4
holdencaufield Oct 2012 #7
Mimosa Oct 2012 #8
Mimosa Oct 2012 #9
holdencaufield Oct 2012 #10
Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #11
oberliner Oct 2012 #13
Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #14
azurnoir Oct 2012 #15
Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #16
azurnoir Oct 2012 #17
Violet_Crumble Oct 2012 #18

Response to polly7 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:14 AM

1. Are you still flogging ...

 

... the totally debunked "Gazans are starving" meme?

Seriously, do you not know that people have access to the Internet and can see for themselves what bollocks that is?





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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #1)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:20 AM

3. Are all the UN reports wrong then?

What about the UN reports which state gaza will become uninhabitable by 2020?

http://www.ibtimes.com/job-scenario-palestinian-youths-very-grim-un-report-779599

Excerpt:

In September 2012, the UN Trade and Development Board released a report saying that "long-term prospect for the Palestinian economic development became even more unattainable in 2011," and that "the recent recovery of growth in Gaza is unsustainable."

The UN attributed the failing economy to "restrictions on movement, faltering aid flows, a paralyzed private sector, and chronic fiscal crisis cloud." The ILO was more direct, saying that the "occupation" of the Palestinian territories by about a half-million Israeli settlers was stunting the economy.

"Together with restricted access to land and natural resources, as well as the accompanying restrictions on freedom of movement for Palestinians, the settlements remain the predominant feature of Israeli occupation," the report said. "They severely constrain Palestinian economic and agricultural development and prevent Palestinian women and men from achieving secure livelihoods and decent work."

Both the UN and the ILO warned of growing frustration among Palestinian youths at the inability to find work, even if they have university degrees.

In a few years, however, Gazans may have far worse problems than joblessness: just a few days earlier on August 28, the UN released another report saying that by 2020, Gaza will be uninhabitable. The report said that services such as water sanitation, electricity, education and health are "not keeping pace with the needs of the growing population."

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #3)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:15 AM

5. The UN Report ascribes many reasons for that prediction

Among them, the Hamas-Fatah split.

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #1)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:37 PM

12. Just checked that last pic, and it comes from a RW blog. Why am I not surprised?

http://countercultureconservative.files.wordpress.com

It's got some really ugly stuff there, including a call to support the anti-Muslim hatemonger, Geert Wilders. You probably should be a bit more careful of where you hang out on the internet, lest you start to give the impression you actually share the views of blogs like that one...

btw, it really does help to read rather than go into instant knee-jerk mode. It's fact that Israel had a formula worked out so that Gazans would have just enough that they wouldn't end up malnourished. The problem with photos, especially when they come from hatesites like the third one, is they're not credible. There's no way of knowing when and where they were taken, what context they're in, or whether they've been manipulated after being taken...

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #1)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 06:29 AM

19. i seem to remember

that exact same photo being used by another poster to make the exact same shitty argument about a week ago.

Seriously, is there a playbook or something, containing a full list of similarly shitty arguments? Whatever you might think of my arguments, at least they're my own.

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Response to polly7 (Original post)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 09:16 AM

2. Native Americans were treated similarly on reservations

Also, this reminded me of how people confined to the Warsaw Ghetto were treated.

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:13 AM

4. The Warsaw Ghetto?

I think you ought to reconsider that comparison.

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #2)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 10:19 AM

7. Comparing Jews to Nazis ...

 

... is against the established rules for this group. Would you care to retract?

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #7)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:30 PM

8. I didn't know there were rules. Sorry.

Many years ago I had read about that era so I knew about the ration and the control of foodstuffs allowed in to the Warsaw ghetto. I did not and would not call Israelis Nazis. Yet, history seems to include strange ironies.

To me the history of what happened to the people of Palestine beginning around 1900 has always reminded me, a Native American, of what happened to my ancestors. My father's parents were Cherokee and Creek, my grandmother's were Apache and Spanish.

I'd read of Secretary of State Clinton's overtures to Chile and some other South American nation to ask them to accept a good number of Palestinians as refugees. That struck me as ironical too.

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 01:51 PM

9. Just an addition

I didn't want to edit in order to add the link. In 2008 Condoleezza Rice first proposed the settlement of Palestinian refugees in Chile and Argentina:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/25/palestine-papers-refugees-south-america

I believe Hillary had also brought up the proposal in 2010.

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Response to Mimosa (Reply #8)

Wed Oct 24, 2012, 07:00 PM

10. Perhaps you're genuinely unaware ...

 

... but Ms Clinton and Ms Rice aren't actually Israelis.

Or, do you think they operate under the control of the Israelis?

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Response to holdencaufield (Reply #7)

Fri Oct 26, 2012, 09:02 PM

11. There are no established rules for this group...

It used to be against the rules, as was what you constantly do, which is equating Israelis with Jews and talking about one as though it's the other...

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Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #11)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:07 AM

13. You are wrong

It was never against the rules. Maybe you should re-read them. They are pinned to the top of this forum.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #13)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:11 AM

14. What was never against the rules?

Equating Israelis with Jews? Comparing Israelis with Nazis?

I've read the old guidelines more times than I care to remember, and when I just checked, they're exactly the same as they were when Lithos posted them here from the old DU2 forum. And both things are against the old rules...

•Do not use the term "Zionist" to mean "Jew" or "Israeli." Do not use the term "Jew" to mean "Israeli".

and when it comes to the whole comparing Israel to the Nazis, this covers it.

•Do not compare Middle East regional leaders and parties to Hitler or the Nazis. Use of these terms is considered inflammatory and should be avoided.

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Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #14)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 02:17 AM

15. Not to mention equating Palestinians with terrorists

unfortunately accessing I/P on DU2 is impossible at the moment as we're on level2 and when you go to DU2 the topics and my forums feature is gone at least for the time being

eta what is pinned to the top of this group is an abbreviated version of the old rules

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #15)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 03:01 AM

16. Yep, back at DU2 all that resulted in deleted posts...

Ah, we're at DEFCON 9 already? I don't have the link back to DU2 or else I'd have taken up residence there pretending that Lithos and UGRR were still our benevolent rulers, but I'm pretty sure that the old guidelines from DU2 that Lithos pinned at the top of the group were the only version, and the only abbreviated version of DU2 rules were the main ones that covered everything.

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Response to Violet_Crumble (Reply #16)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 03:17 AM

17. I kept my DU2 link

and I think when I checked the about this forum the page did not fully load because when I did just now it did, everyone's home at my house and that means 4 (tonight) people riding the same internet connection so it tends to slow down quite a bit

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #17)

Sat Oct 27, 2012, 04:11 AM

18. You think that's bad. Try a teenage kid downloading multiple movies!

When she does that, my SimCity Social time just dies, and my crops in Farmville2 end up withering! I can hardly wait till she moves in with her bf. I can move onto a lower plan than the 60 gazillion gig one I'm on now to cater for her insatiable need to download crap

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