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Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:28 PM

Mosby (3,029 posts)

Abbas proposes canceling Oslo Accords

JERUSALEM (JTA) -- Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas reportedly has proposed canceling the Oslo Accords with Israel.

Abbas made the proposal at the beginning of the week at a meeting of Palestinian leadership, the Frency news agency AFP reported, citing a senior member of the Palestine Liberation Organization.

A decision on the issue was postponed until after Abbas returns from the United Nations General Assembly at the end of the month, AFP reported. It is reportedly the first time the issue of abrogating the treaty has come up since it was signed in 1993, according to the news service.

http://www.jta.org/news/article/2012/09/19/3107236/abbas-proposes-cancelling-oslo-accords

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Abbas proposes canceling Oslo Accords (Original post)	Mosby	Sep 2012	OP
One thinks of the Onion here. nt	bemildred	Sep 2012	#1
how so	eyl	Sep 2012	#5
Oslo's been dead for ten or twelve years now, with the settlers dancing on the grave. nt	bemildred	Sep 2012	#6
Actually quite the opposite	oberliner	Sep 2012	#7
The same with the Israeli developement of area C	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#8
Thanks to the Israeli government not wanting the responsibility itself, you mean.	bemildred	Sep 2012	#9
Pre-Oslo there was essentially no Palestinian autonomy	oberliner	Sep 2012	#11
Like I said ... nt	bemildred	Sep 2012	#12
He may have other Palestinian Leaders have including Mustafa Barghouti from 9/13	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#2
IOW, a Palestinian declaration of terror, another Intifada....	shira	Sep 2012	#3
hmmm so that's the only thing that can mean I take it?	azurnoir	Sep 2012	#4
Why don't you say what YOU think instead of mis-representing what everybody else thinks?	bemildred	Sep 2012	#10
Who's thoughts was she "mis-representing" ? nt	King_David	Sep 2012	#13
How many people do you see on this sub-thread?	bemildred	Sep 2012	#14
Thanks for the informative answer,	King_David	Sep 2012	#15
Good luck. nt	bemildred	Sep 2012	#16
Thank You. nt	King_David	Sep 2012	#17

Response to Mosby (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2012, 12:36 PM

bemildred (67,731 posts)

1. One thinks of the Onion here. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #1)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 08:28 AM

eyl (2,486 posts)

5. how so

Yossi Beillin also proposed cancelling the Accords a few weeks ago (on the basis that they were never intended to last this long)

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Response to eyl (Reply #5)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:06 AM

bemildred (67,731 posts)

6. Oslo's been dead for ten or twelve years now, with the settlers dancing on the grave. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #6)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 11:57 AM

oberliner (22,355 posts)

7. Actually quite the opposite

The entire structure of the Palestinian government that is currently functioning in the West Bank is thanks to the agreements made in Oslo.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:07 PM

azurnoir (27,388 posts)

8. The same with the Israeli developement of area C

and the 'evacuation' of Palestinians living in area C, the part of Oslo that seems dead is the part that says Oslo was supposed to be temporary, yes indeed Oslo is the gift that keeps on giving -to the Israelis anyway

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Response to oberliner (Reply #7)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:28 PM

bemildred (67,731 posts)

9. Thanks to the Israeli government not wanting the responsibility itself, you mean.

Those parts of Oslo that continue to function are precisely those parts of Oslo that the Israeli government wants to function, and no others.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #9)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:34 PM

oberliner (22,355 posts)

11. Pre-Oslo there was essentially no Palestinian autonomy

Currently, there is a much more significant degree among Palestinians in the West Bank.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #11)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:39 PM

bemildred (67,731 posts)

12. Like I said ... nt

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Response to Mosby (Original post)

Wed Sep 19, 2012, 02:59 PM

azurnoir (27,388 posts)

2. He may have other Palestinian Leaders have including Mustafa Barghouti from 9/13

Last edited Wed Sep 19, 2012, 03:01 PM USA/ET - Edit history (1)

Palestinian National Initiative leader Mustafa Barghouti said the accords turned out to be "a transition to nothing," and had been used as a cover by Israel "to consolidate a system of apartheid."

"We as Palestinians need to liberate ourselves from the terrible conditions of the agreement," through popular resistance, national unity and boycott, divestment and sanctions, Barghouti told Ma'an.

http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=519812

I guess after 19 years some frustration sets in

for those that do not readily know who Mustafa Barghouti is here is his interview with Jon Stewart from a few years ago

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-28-2009/anna-baltzer---mustafa-barghouti

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-october-28-2009/exclusive---anna-baltzer---mustafa-barghouti-extended-interview-pt--2

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Response to azurnoir (Reply #2)

Wed Sep 19, 2012, 05:57 PM

shira (18,350 posts)

3. IOW, a Palestinian declaration of terror, another Intifada....

...and this was inevitable due to Israeli intransigence, correct? We should be applauding the end of Oslo. Yes?

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Response to shira (Reply #3)

Wed Sep 19, 2012, 06:03 PM

azurnoir (27,388 posts)

4. hmmm so that's the only thing that can mean I take it?

well that's ONE way of looking at it

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Response to shira (Reply #3)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 12:33 PM

bemildred (67,731 posts)

10. Why don't you say what YOU think instead of mis-representing what everybody else thinks?

Not only would it be easier for you and more direct, but people would be more willing to converse knowing their thoughts would not be exaggerated and mis-represented.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #10)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:00 PM

King_David (4,685 posts)

13. Who's thoughts was she "mis-representing" ? nt

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Response to King_David (Reply #13)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:07 PM

bemildred (67,731 posts)

14. How many people do you see on this sub-thread?

I count 4, including you.

If you are anxious to defend post #3, I suggest you get on with your argument, you have some research to do.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #14)

Thu Sep 20, 2012, 10:34 PM

King_David (4,685 posts)

15. Thanks for the informative answer,

But I still don't understand..

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Response to King_David (Reply #15)

Fri Sep 21, 2012, 08:15 AM

bemildred (67,731 posts)

16. Good luck. nt

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Response to bemildred (Reply #16)

Fri Sep 21, 2012, 12:53 PM

King_David (4,685 posts)

17. Thank You. nt

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