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shira

(30,109 posts)
Tue Oct 20, 2015, 08:50 PM Oct 2015

Not an uprising against occupation. An uprising against Israel

As was the case 11-15 years ago, the result is that we set out each day knowing that people around us want to kill us. For now, they are generally using less devastating methods than back then. But potentially, there are more of them. And they are right here among us — on the “good” side of the barrier we built to stop those Second Intifada bombers. They are men, women and even children. And the brainwashing has been so effective that they come at us ready and willing to die in the act of killing the Jew — the evil Jew, they have been so effectively persuaded, who has no right to be here, who has no connection to Jerusalem and to this land....

...They say that this is the latest uprising against the occupation. It isn’t. It’s the latest uprising against Israel.

Most Israelis don’t want to rule over the Palestinians. Most Israelis want to separate from the Palestinians. If the Palestinians want a state based on the 1967 lines, they have to convince a majority of Israelis that their independence would not threaten our existence. You’d think this would be obvious. Evidently it isn’t.

This latest phase of terrorism and violence — like the conventional wars, and the suicide bomber onslaught, and the relentless campaign of misrepresentation and demonization and denial of Jewish history in the holy land — sends the opposite message to Israel. Much of the rest of the world — so short-sighted in viewing Israel as the Goliath when it’s a tiny, loathed sliver in a region seething with Islamist extremism — refuses to see it. But in bloody, unmistakable capital letters, the perpetrators of this new round of evil mayhem proclaim to Israelis: We don’t want to live alongside you. We want to kill you and force you out of here.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/not-an-uprising-against-occupation-an-uprising-against-israel/

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Little Tich

(6,171 posts)
5. I believe that the kind of thinking expressed in the OP makes a new Intifada more likely
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 03:54 AM
Oct 2015

rather than less likely.

Living conditions for Palestinians in East Jerusalem and the West Bank have steadily worsened over the years, and pretending that they're not unhappy about it is delusional.

Unfortunately, the thinking expressed in the OP is the prevalent one in the Israeli government. I sincerely hope that the Israeli government fails in escalating the violence - nobody except Netanyahu wants an intifada.

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
7. That thinking isn't just prevalent in the government, but for most Israelis...
Wed Oct 21, 2015, 07:08 AM
Oct 2015

It's the mainstream view among Israeli Jews.

If you want peace advanced in that region, you will have to convince the vast majority of Israel's voters. Now of course BDS has given up on that (hell, they don't even care what the vast majority of Palestinians want for that matter).

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