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Violet_Crumble

(35,955 posts)
Fri Jun 1, 2012, 08:01 AM Jun 2012

Israeli minister urges unilateral declaration of Palestinian borders

DEFENCE Minister Ehud Barak wants Israel to consider imposing the borders of a future Palestinian state, becoming the most senior government official to suggest bypassing a stagnant peace process.

Mr Barak's statement on Wednesday to consider what he and many Israelis call ''unilateral actions'' without offering any specifics, echoed an emerging chorus of political leaders, analysts and intellectuals who have said Israel needs its own solution to the Palestinian crisis.


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But the Palestinian Authority did take its own steps last autumn, when it pursued United Nations recognition, something it is considering again. Israel has criticised such efforts for stepping outside the bounds of negotiations.

The Obama administration has strongly opposed unilateral action by either side and some senior Israeli officials have worried that such a move by Israel could provoke an uprising by Palestinians.


Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/israeli-minister-urges-unilateral-declaration-of-palestinian-borders-20120531-1zkmq.html#ixzz1wXgYVSkv

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Israeli minister urges unilateral declaration of Palestinian borders (Original Post) Violet_Crumble Jun 2012 OP
Because unilateral declarations have worked so well in the past? Ruby the Liberal Jun 2012 #1
Because force works. aranthus Jun 2012 #2
Perhaps Barak gave a hint of what he means here azurnoir Jun 2012 #3
You mean Barak. Barack is our guy. Ruby the Liberal Jun 2012 #4
Thanks I always confuse the spellings azurnoir Jun 2012 #6
Actually, I saw it and thought, "The Prez said WHAT??" Ruby the Liberal Jun 2012 #8
People do that here with Lieberman oberliner Jun 2012 #10
I confused the spelling of the names not the people involved azurnoir Jun 2012 #11
Wasn't responding to you oberliner Jun 2012 #12
yes however you were talking about a comment and spelling error that I made azurnoir Jun 2012 #13
Very true oberliner Jun 2012 #14
yes in the future I should indeed "remember my place" and not speak unless spoken to thanks so much azurnoir Jun 2012 #15
Misleading headline. Barak didn't call for borders... shira Jun 2012 #5
Pretty amazing spin job oberliner Jun 2012 #7
Only a positive development... holdencaufield Jun 2012 #9

aranthus

(3,385 posts)
2. Because force works.
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 01:20 PM
Jun 2012

If Israel has the power to impose boundaries, then it has the power to impose boundaries. Declarations don't count. Power does.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
3. Perhaps Barak gave a hint of what he means here
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 03:29 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:01 PM - Edit history (1)

Two weeks ago, in an interview with Army Radio regarding the Ulpana Hill settlement, Barak blurted out - probably without even realizing it - that "Beit El, Ofra and Baal Hatzor Hill are all important places that will stay in Israel's hands under any permanent arrangement."

Barak surely knows that it is impossible to annex settlements like Beit El and Ofra, which are only about 10 kilometers from Ramallah, and also to reach a permanent arrangement with the Palestinian government sitting in Ramallah. Perhaps that explains why he told last week's Institute for National Security Studies conference that if Israel cannot reach a permanent arrangement with the Palestinians, "we need to think about an interim agreement, or even unilateral steps."


http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/opinion/on-both-palestinians-and-migrants-israeli-mks-are-koshering-the-vermin.premium-1.434231
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
10. People do that here with Lieberman
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:35 PM
Jun 2012

Confusing Joe for Avigdor in spite of it being clearly indicated in the piece.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
11. I confused the spelling of the names not the people involved
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:37 PM
Jun 2012

but thanks for your input all the same I do hope it clarified things for you

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
13. yes however you were talking about a comment and spelling error that I made
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 12:51 AM
Jun 2012

it is usually considered polite or considerate to address the person directly but if you wish to use such methods it's up to you,I did not realize that here we cannot comment unless spoken to first sorry I spoke out of turn perhaps in the future I should 'remember my place'

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
15. yes in the future I should indeed "remember my place" and not speak unless spoken to thanks so much
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 01:10 PM
Jun 2012

for your reply

 

shira

(30,109 posts)
5. Misleading headline. Barak didn't call for borders...
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 04:54 PM
Jun 2012

It appears more likely he's for another unilateral withdrawal, but this time from the West Bank.

Funny how anti-Israel extremists aren't overjoyed with Israel putting an end to most of the occupation.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
7. Pretty amazing spin job
Mon Jun 4, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jun 2012

Another way of putting it would be that Barak is proposing withdrawal from portions of the West Bank and settlement dismantlement. Seems like that would be a positive development, no?

 

holdencaufield

(2,927 posts)
9. Only a positive development...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 12:43 AM
Jun 2012

... if your ultimate goal is putting an end to the occupation and paving the way for an eventual Palestinian State.

However, if your goal is "other" -- then this could be a real "naqba"

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