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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:42 AM Mar 2015

Fracking in CA destroys forever 2 million gallons of water each day, Governor shrugs it off

Governor Brown, We Urge You to Do What Is Right for Our Water and Our Environment!
by Paul Y. Song, MD
3/27/15

Governor Jerry Brown has just two days left to respond to a legal petition filed by more than 150 California organizations demanding an emergency moratorium on fracking. The petition, filed on February 26 came after the shocking revelation that the oil industry has been illegally injecting highly toxic fracking wastewater in California aquifers meant for drinking and irrigation. More than 65,000 people have since signed the petition; on Thursday, March 26, Californians Against Fracking delivered the signatures to Gov. Brown's office in the State Capitol.



NASA's assessment earlier this month that California's groundwater supplies are at a critical low, threatening the nation's food supply, should have lit a fire in Sacramento to take any steps necessary to protect our state's water. Instead, Governor Brown and the California State Water Resources and Control Board proposes a $1 billion drought relief package last week that focuses on the wrong priorities, and also, set limits on lawn-watering and drinking water service in restaurants. The plan fails to address one industrial use, including the needless water pollution and waste to fracking and extreme oil extraction in California.

Meanwhile, documents released by state regulators last month prove that thousands of wastewater disposal wells in California are illegally dumping waste into state aquifers. We don't know yet how much water has been callously destroyed as a result. What's more, the oil industry destroys two million gallons of water in California each day to conduct fracking and other extreme drilling practices. At no time -- and certainly not during a drought crisis -- can California afford to forever remove even a single drop of clean water from the hydrologic cycle. Gov. Brown has an obligation to take emergency action to take immediate action to stop these practices in light of the state's water emergency.

Unfortunately, Brown has refused to do so. The Governor stated on Meet the Press last Sunday that, despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary, the drought is no reason to ban fracking. ...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-y-song-md/governor-brown-we-urge-you-to-do-what-is-right-for-our-water-and-our-environment_b_6950750.html
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Fracking in CA destroys forever 2 million gallons of water each day, Governor shrugs it off (Original Post) RiverLover Mar 2015 OP
K&R abelenkpe Mar 2015 #1
Any article that states the absurd notion dumbcat Mar 2015 #2
Do you like drinking radioactive, benzene water? Do you want that spread on our crops? RiverLover Mar 2015 #3
Forever? dumbcat Mar 2015 #9
"When water is used for industrial purposes like fracking, it can never return to the water table." RiverLover Mar 2015 #12
Never? dumbcat Mar 2015 #14
When they are done using the water it is toxic and they inject it really deep underground. Cheese Sandwich Mar 2015 #20
If you have information that proves it wrong, please share. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #4
Forever? dumbcat Mar 2015 #10
You didn't present a very substantive case, "Do you think the chemicals go with it?" rhett o rick Mar 2015 #15
K&R! marym625 Mar 2015 #5
I shouldn't have to point out that Republicons and Conservative Democrats agree on supporting rhett o rick Mar 2015 #6
I am highly disappointed that Gov Brown is not stopping fracking in California BrotherIvan Mar 2015 #7
I eat walnuts grown in California. postulater Mar 2015 #8
You're going to die dumbcat Mar 2015 #11
Ah, you had trouble figuring this out, and tried to put the poster down for something they didn't RiverLover Mar 2015 #13
Do you support fracking? nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #16
No dumbcat Mar 2015 #17
So why are you disparaging those that are against fracking? rhett o rick Mar 2015 #18
I wasn't disparaging anyone against fracking dumbcat Mar 2015 #19

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
2. Any article that states the absurd notion
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 10:22 AM
Mar 2015

that water can be destroyed forever by this process is not worth reading. Scientifically illiterate hysteria.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
3. Do you like drinking radioactive, benzene water? Do you want that spread on our crops?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:11 AM
Mar 2015

In baby formula?

How is it scientifically possible to have clean water after its used in fracking? Dumbcat?

Why do you think its put in deep injection wells after being used in fracking? Gone forever. Because its no longer safe to be used above ground.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
9. Forever?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:25 PM
Mar 2015

How do you destroy H2O forever? Forever is a long time. And the earth has methods of recycling H2O and filtering it.

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
20. When they are done using the water it is toxic and they inject it really deep underground.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:07 AM
Mar 2015

The whole point of that is supposedly to prevent it from seeping back up into the water table because it is toxic.

Gas industry groups do big presentations about how it can never seep back up.

I think sometimes some of the chemicals do migrate back up into the streams though.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
10. Forever?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 04:28 PM
Mar 2015

Forever is a long time. Ever hear of the H2O cycle? Evaporation and rain? Do you think the chemicals go with it?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
15. You didn't present a very substantive case, "Do you think the chemicals go with it?"
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 06:34 PM
Mar 2015

Water in aquifers aren't part of the H2O cycle. The chemicals can be removed from the water but that's really beside the point.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
6. I shouldn't have to point out that Republicons and Conservative Democrats agree on supporting
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 11:56 AM
Mar 2015

fracking. Both H. Clinton and Pres Obama support fracking. Oil industry profits out trump drinking water for the 99%.

Vote no to conservatism, vote for a progressive.

BrotherIvan

(9,126 posts)
7. I am highly disappointed that Gov Brown is not stopping fracking in California
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:02 PM
Mar 2015

From his latest clip, he is certainly not a climate change denier. So while California is facing a crisis, the drought is the main reason to ban fracking (though it should just be banned outright). Gov. Brown has done many great things for the state; he needs to step up and do the right thing now.

postulater

(5,075 posts)
8. I eat walnuts grown in California.
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 01:04 PM
Mar 2015

They are water-intensive and they have to be shipped half way across the country to get to me, but I can't buy ones that are grown here and I don't have a walnut tree.

I would rather see the water used for growing food and recycled into the surface aquifers than to become toxic enough that it has to be taken out of the useable water cycle and buried indefinitely.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
13. Ah, you had trouble figuring this out, and tried to put the poster down for something they didn't
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 05:10 PM
Mar 2015

even say. No where was it said the walnuts might be contaminated from fracking. It was only said that it would be much better to use water for things like growing food/walnuts rather than fracking.

Sometimes people get nasty when they don't understand. Its ok, it must be frustrating.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. So why are you disparaging those that are against fracking?
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 07:54 PM
Mar 2015

Oh yeah, I love reality. If you know what it is, share it with the rest of humanity. Philosophers have long tried to define reality.

Just being factious. I know that when people claim to know reality they mean their reality.

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
19. I wasn't disparaging anyone against fracking
Sat Mar 28, 2015, 08:33 PM
Mar 2015

I don't know where you got that. I was disparaging the scientifically illiterate statement that H2O could be destroyed forever. The molecule can be separated with enough energy, but it really wants to recombine back into water.

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