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Fri May 2, 2014, 12:07 PM

CNN Just Reporting: . KXL measure lacks the 60 votes needed for construction

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Great news. This has to be stopped.

Thank You Nebraska for standing your ground.
Thanks to the 60 Senators who can hold this vote up.
Hope they don't change their minds

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Reply CNN Just Reporting: . KXL measure lacks the 60 votes needed for construction (Original post)
misterhighwasted May 2014 OP
packman May 2014 #1
Gore1FL May 2014 #15
Indyfan53 May 2014 #2
riqster May 2014 #3
Sanity Claws May 2014 #4
pangaia May 2014 #5
Sanity Claws May 2014 #6
pangaia May 2014 #11
muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #7
Cartoonist May 2014 #8
navarth May 2014 #9
navarth May 2014 #10
Samantha May 2014 #13
muriel_volestrangler May 2014 #14
Samantha May 2014 #17
1StrongBlackMan May 2014 #16
Samantha May 2014 #18
misterhighwasted May 2014 #12

Response to misterhighwasted (Original post)

Fri May 2, 2014, 12:42 PM

1. 60 Senators?

Are you saying 60 out of 100 senators are against it?

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Response to packman (Reply #1)

Fri May 2, 2014, 03:02 PM

15. I think it's more than 40 are against it. n/t

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Response to misterhighwasted (Original post)

Fri May 2, 2014, 12:45 PM

2. Hallelujah!

Halle-fucking-lujah! We are being heard!

GOTV IN NOVEMBER!!!!

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Response to Indyfan53 (Reply #2)

Fri May 2, 2014, 12:50 PM

3. This ^^^^

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Response to misterhighwasted (Original post)

Fri May 2, 2014, 12:55 PM

4. This doesn't make sense

60 votes total are needed to pass something and avoid a filibuster that would prevent a vote.

If something fell 60 votes short, then nobody supported it. Is that accurate? Or is CNN just its usual inaccurate self?

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #4)

Fri May 2, 2014, 01:00 PM

5. Maybe the Senate is short of the 60 votes.

...or maybe the short senators are not voting
or the senators voting in favor are two short, or too short.
Could be any of the above, or none...

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Response to pangaia (Reply #5)

Fri May 2, 2014, 01:02 PM

6. Could they be in their shorts?

Voting in shorts = short votes?

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #6)

Fri May 2, 2014, 01:45 PM

11. Yes, yes. Absolutely.

That is a definite possibility, although short on sanity.

!!

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Response to misterhighwasted (Original post)

Fri May 2, 2014, 01:02 PM

7. Reported here as 56 senators in favour of XL, they thought they could get 6 or 7 more

but that seems unlikely to the reporter:

A bipartisan bill was introduced yesterday that would circumvent President Barack Obama by issuing a permit allowing construction. The move came after his administration delayed a decision on the $5.4 billion project, possibly into next year, citing a legal challenge to the route it would take through Nebraska.
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The legislation’s authors -- Republican Senator John Hoeven of North Dakota and Democratic Senator Mary Landrieu of Louisiana -- said they have 56 supporters -- four shy of what’s needed to end delaying tactics by opponents and make the vote anything more than an election-year gambit putting supporters on record for voters back home.

Hoeven said all 45 Senate Republicans, along with 11 Democrats, support his legislation, and now he and Landrieu have “six or seven” Democrats in their sights, yet don’t yet have any takers. The bill is S.2280.

The targets are Democrats who in March 2013 joined Republicans to pass a nonbinding resolution backing the pipeline with 62 votes.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2014-05-01/wooing-of-wavering-senators-to-force-keystone-seen-falling-short

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #7)

Fri May 2, 2014, 01:08 PM

8. Done deal

The targets are Democrats who in March 2013 joined Republicans to pass a nonbinding resolution backing the pipeline with 62 votes.
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The spineless just need a little more cash.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #7)

Fri May 2, 2014, 01:15 PM

9. Mary Landrieu

She's a sponsor of this and just recently I got emails from some Democratic organization asking me to send her money. 'Support Mary Landrieu'!

Fuck that.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #7)

Fri May 2, 2014, 02:14 PM

13. Authorization to build this pipeline across the border is an Executive Branch power

not a Legislative Branch power. The President must approve the pipeline, and acquire two-thirds of the Senate to approve it. Just the Senate.

Who are they kidding?

Sam

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Response to Samantha (Reply #13)

Fri May 2, 2014, 02:30 PM

14. Dunno - it seems to me they'd need that 2/3rds to 'bypass' a presidential veto

in both chambers. Maybe their idea is that since Obama says he's undecided, a majority vote in both chambers (assuming the Repub majority in the House will vote for Oil) will get him to leap off the fence onto their side. But that doesn't seem a 'bypass' to me.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #14)

Fri May 2, 2014, 10:24 PM

17. I don't think President Obama falls for bluffs very often

And he is a Constitutional expert so I am thinking he is pretty familiar with the text of the law.

It is we the people these legislators are trying to sucker-punch. They think we cannot read or do not know the law. After all, many of us went to public schools....

Sam

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Response to Samantha (Reply #13)

Fri May 2, 2014, 03:06 PM

16. Someone here ...

either read the US Constitution or took, and passed, 8th grade Civics ... or maybe both.

Brava!

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Response to 1StrongBlackMan (Reply #16)

Fri May 2, 2014, 10:26 PM

18. Exactly -- learned this in an 8th grade civics class in a public school!

I remember thinking I was the only one in class who found civics fascinating! Still do.

Sam

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Response to misterhighwasted (Original post)

Fri May 2, 2014, 01:46 PM

12. KXL measure lacks the 60 votes needed for construction

Will repost this headline
For clarification.

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