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OKIsItJustMe

(19,937 posts)
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:30 PM Feb 2012

A Message from Al Gore: 24 hours to stop Keystone XL

http://climaterealityproject.org/2012/02/13/24-hours-to-stop-keystone-xl/
[font face=Times, Times New Roman, Serif]A MESSAGE FROM AL GORE
[font size=5]24 hours to stop Keystone XL[/font]

02/13/2012 // 1:39 pm

[font size=3]In the next few days, the U.S. Senate will vote to determine the fate of a pipeline that would link a vast tar sands deposit in Alberta, Canada to refineries on the Texas Gulf Coast. The construction of the pipeline has been blocked once by President Obama, who refused to buckle to pressure from Congress and industry to cut short the environmental review. Unfortunately, they are at it again.

If approved and built, this pipeline, Keystone XL, would carry the most carbon-intensive source of oil on the planet.

For the next 24 hours, The Climate Reality Project is joining with 350.org, MoveOn, League of Conservation Voters, Patagonia, Sierra Club, Energy Action Coalition and others to garner 500,000 signatures in a community-wide effort against the pipeline. Bill McKibben of 350.org will be on The Colbert Report tonight and will update the world on our progress – so sign now, and then pass it on. We’ve come together before to stop production of this dangerous pollutant – and with your help, we can do it again:

Join me in telling the U.S. Senate to say NO to one of the most carbon-intensive oils on the planet:

http://climatereality.com/keystone

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Sign the petition: http://forms.climaterealityproject.org/keystone

Better yet, call your senators! http://www.senate.gov/
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A Message from Al Gore: 24 hours to stop Keystone XL (Original Post) OKIsItJustMe Feb 2012 OP
recommend... not over yet handmade34 Feb 2012 #1
Sadly, I don't think these petitions will make a difference. The oil will be brought up anyway. razorman Feb 2012 #2
So the Canadian people grntuscarora Feb 2012 #3
My understanding is that the oil sale is popular in Canada. Haven't heard actual numbers, though. razorman Feb 2012 #7
My understanding is that the pipeline content goes to China whether it passes through the US or not. proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #8
Signed, tweeted, shared, etc. n/t ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2012 #4
K&R! midnight Feb 2012 #5
Signed. n/t onestepforward Feb 2012 #6
K&R proverbialwisdom Feb 2012 #9

razorman

(1,644 posts)
2. Sadly, I don't think these petitions will make a difference. The oil will be brought up anyway.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 03:53 PM
Feb 2012

Canada is going to drill the oil sands, regardless of whether or not the U.S. buys the oil. If we do not take it, they will sell it to the Chinese. It may already be too late. Remember, the deadline for a decision is not the day they start filling Chinese oilers, but the day the contract is signed. That could be at any moment.
Personally, I am torn on this. As environmentally harmful as Keystone XL would be, putting the oil on ships and carrying it to the other side of the world is even riskier. But, since Canada wants to sell the oil, one or the other is going to happen.

grntuscarora

(1,249 posts)
3. So the Canadian people
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 04:18 PM
Feb 2012

are just going to roll over on this and there will be no Canadians stepping forward to fight it?? Quite frankly, I find that hard to believe.
If we can halt the pipeline on our side of the border, I have confidence Canadian activists will find a way to halt it on theirs. But perhaps you have information I haven't seen. Is the project popular with the Canadian people?

proverbialwisdom

(4,959 posts)
8. My understanding is that the pipeline content goes to China whether it passes through the US or not.
Mon Feb 13, 2012, 08:47 PM
Feb 2012

That is, it is not for US domestic use. Got a source?

http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy-ab&hl=en&site=&source=hp&q=tar+sands+destination+of+oil&psj=1&oq=tar+sands+destination+of+oil&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_sm=3&gs_upl=2415l9425l0l9916l28l26l0l1l1l4l498l7125l0.3.13.7.2l25l0&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=ae570371bd915c46&biw=1725&bih=728

There still seems to be an significant vaguery among the peoples (on both sides of the issue) about what could happen to the oil, the lands, peoples, water, air, and life... after refinery in Port Arthur, Texas, and where it would travel from its 'distribution' points along the Texas-Mexico border.

I'm more worried today than yesterday, witnessing the compelling testimonies and aghast at the lack of inquisitiveness on the part of the movement to follow the documentation trail left by Koch Industries (see September 24, 2011 post, scroll down)...

Again, please refer to the September 24, 2011 post on this site (scroll down), providing important details regarding Koch Industries' statement explicitly saying that the refined fuels will be going to Mexico, and from there other sites across the hemisphere. To my knowledge, this is the only site in the hemisphere that is making this crucial connection. Unfortunately, this is beginning to feel like the same isolation room that we experienced around the border wall.

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