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Thu May 30, 2013, 06:59 PM

Illinois illegally seizes Bees Resistant to Monsanto’s Roundup; Kills remaining Queens

http://www.globalresearch.ca/illinois-illegally-seizes-bees-resistant-to-monsantos-roundup-kills-remaining-queens/5336210

The Illinois Ag Dept. illegally seized privately owned bees from renowned naturalist, Terrence Ingram, without providing him with a search warrant and before the court hearing on the matter, reports Prairie Advocate News.

Behind the obvious violations of his Constitutional rights is Monsanto. Ingram was researching Roundup’s effects on bees, which he’s raised for 58 years. “They ruined 15 years of my research,” he told Prairie Advocate, by stealing most of his stock.

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Ingram can prove his bees did not have foulbrood, and planned to do so at a hearing set in April, but the state seized his bees at the end of March. They have not returned them and no one at the Ag Dept. seems to know where his bees are.

The bees could have been destroyed, or they could have been turned over to Monsanto to ascertain why some of his bees are resistant to Roundup. Without the bees as evidence, Ingram simply cannot defend against the phony charges of foulbrood.

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Reply Illinois illegally seizes Bees Resistant to Monsanto’s Roundup; Kills remaining Queens (Original post)
marble falls May 2013 OP
NYC_SKP May 2013 #1
muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #3
AnotherMcIntosh May 2013 #2
Buzz Clik May 2013 #4
marble falls May 2013 #5
Buzz Clik May 2013 #6
GeorgeGist May 2013 #7
marble falls May 2013 #8
bvar22 May 2013 #10
muriel_volestrangler May 2013 #11
NickB79 May 2013 #9
Javaman May 2013 #12

Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2013, 07:04 PM

1. WTF???



This is a crime against nature and against humanity.

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #1)

Thu May 30, 2013, 07:19 PM

3. It's a repeat of 3 threads from last week about something that happened over a year ago

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022895381
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022897150
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022899549

The actual story: http://www.pacc-news.com/5-2-12/heart_ingram5_2_12.html

Now, the only connection with Monsanto is the guy thinks they must be behind it, because ... he thinks they hate him.

If you think it's a "crime against nature and against humanity", can you explain why? Is it that you think there's no way the government can be right about foulbrood, and you think this guy is right - in which case, is that because you know him, or have other reason to believe him over the government scientists?

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2013, 07:12 PM

2. In Illinois? Why is this not a surprise?

 

If there is a more corrupt State, where is it?

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2013, 08:23 PM

4. In the 1950s and 60s, if you wanted to sell a conspiracy theory, mention "commies"

"He's a pinko!" "It's a communist plot!" We went to war in both Korea and Vietnam to keep the world safe from commies.

After the end of the Cold War, the commie schtick was no good. Fortunately, terrorists came along. So, now we can blame terrorists for everything from ricin letters to bombings to my wife's flat tire.

Unless, of course, you're on the left. You want to rally the troops? Get a lot of attention and sympathy? Blame Monsanto. Works every time.

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Response to Buzz Clik (Reply #4)

Thu May 30, 2013, 08:29 PM

5. Worth the read, from Vanity Fair

http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2008/05/monsanto200805

Monsanto’s Harvest of Fear
Monsanto already dominates America’s food chain with its genetically modified seeds. Now it has targeted milk production. Just as frightening as the corporation’s tactics–ruthless legal battles against small farmers–is its decades-long history of toxic contamination.
by Donald L. Barlett and James B. Steele

Google Monsanto sometime.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #5)

Thu May 30, 2013, 08:35 PM

6. Monsanto's business practices are awful. No doubt.

The rest is pure bullshit.

Google "pure bullshit" sometime.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2013, 08:38 PM

7. Bees are plants?

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Response to GeorgeGist (Reply #7)

Thu May 30, 2013, 08:42 PM

8. Their resistance to Roundup is a potential problem for Monsanto and a possible ray of hope ...

about the worldwide bee die off.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #8)

Thu May 30, 2013, 11:01 PM

10. That doesn't make sense.

Monsanto would embrace Round-Up Resistant Bees,
not kill them.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #8)

Fri May 31, 2013, 02:44 AM

11. Monsanto claims all bees are resistant to Roundup

Can you point to a scientist that links Roundup, ie glyphosphate, to the bee die-off? Remember, Roundup is a herbicide, not an insecticide.

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Thu May 30, 2013, 09:24 PM

9. Good. The senile fuck almost caused an outbreak of foulbrood

The general consensus among the apiary community is that he's a crackpot that thinks his hives being infected with a highly dangerous disease was no one's business but his own and that he knew better than the federal scientists that positively ID'ed foulbrood in his hives. Straight up libertarian fuck-the-government mindset.

Oh, and Round-Up already has no effect on bees, because they're not fucking plants.

Damn crackpot woo conspiracy nuts

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Response to marble falls (Original post)

Fri May 31, 2013, 08:37 AM

12. this is a story from last year and it's total bs...

Someone posted this story last week and I did some research. It's an old story and I think someone has an axe to grind...

Here is my link showing that...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=2895467

on edit: look at the additional replies to the link I supplied.

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