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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 03:16 AM

Japan to build world's largest offshore wind farm

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn23082-japan-to-build-worlds-largest-offshore-wind-farm.html

By 2020, the plan is to build a total of 143 wind turbines on platforms 16 kilometres off the coast of Fukushima, home to the stricken Daiichi nuclear reactor that hit the headlines in March 2011 when it was damaged by an earthquake and tsunami.

The wind farm, which will generate 1 gigawatt of power once completed, is part of a national plan to increase renewable energy resources following the post-tsunami shutdown of the nation's 54 nuclear reactors. Only two have since come back online.

The project is part of Fukushima's plan to become completely energy self-sufficient by 2040, using renewable sources alone. The prefecture is also set to build the country's biggest solar park.

The wind farm will surpass the 504 megawatts generated by the 140 turbines at the Greater Gabbard farm off the coast of Suffolk, UK – currently the world's largest farm. This accolade will soon pass to the London Array in the Thames Estuary, where 175 turbines will produce 630 megawatts of power when it comes online later this year. The Fukushima farm will beat this, too.

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Reply Japan to build world's largest offshore wind farm (Original post)
Bonobo Jan 2013 OP
Politicalboi Jan 2013 #1
Nihil Jan 2013 #3
Nihil Jan 2013 #2
ReRe Jan 2013 #4
Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #5
physioex Jan 2013 #26
Warren Stupidity Jan 2013 #28
physioex Jan 2013 #29
phantom power Jan 2013 #6
Bonobo Jan 2013 #8
phantom power Jan 2013 #9
Bonobo Jan 2013 #10
wtmusic Jan 2013 #11
Bonobo Jan 2013 #14
wtmusic Jan 2013 #15
Bonobo Jan 2013 #21
wtmusic Jan 2013 #22
Bonobo Jan 2013 #23
joshcryer Jan 2013 #24
wtmusic Jan 2013 #25
joshcryer Jan 2013 #27
wtmusic Jan 2013 #30
joshcryer Jan 2013 #19
Demo_Chris Jan 2013 #12
phantom power Jan 2013 #13
joshcryer Jan 2013 #18
Dead_Parrot Jan 2013 #20
joshcryer Jan 2013 #16
wtmusic Jan 2013 #7
joshcryer Jan 2013 #17

Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:41 AM

1. Japan

A country that LEARNS from it's mistakes. We on the other hand need a full blown melt down before we will even realize the danger we put ourselves in. I bet Japan doesn't do fracking either. I wonder if the giant squids found in Ca are from Fukushima, or is it just another species.

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Response to Politicalboi (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:27 AM

3. Yes to your main point but no, just "No", to your last line ...

> I wonder if the giant squids found in Ca are from Fukushima, or is it just another species.


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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 05:26 AM

2. Smart place to put it ...

... seeing as how the primary interface to the distribution infrastructure is already
in place (and not in use) it will cut out a large chunk of the cost that would be
associated with a similar sized "green field" ("blue water"?) project.

(Shame that the UK will lose its lead in this area but at least they held it for a while.)

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 06:18 AM

4. But are they....

....earthquake & tsunami-proof? Go for it, Japan. If the world keeps going, we will be the last industrialized nation in the world to get renewable energy. Race to the bottom, 'ya know...

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:05 AM

5. Yes but if there is another tsunami those windmills could FALL OVER!!!!!!!!

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 07:29 PM

26. Not exactly......

My understanding is a Tsunami gains strength exponentially the closer it comes to shore. If you had a vessel like a ship, the best thing you could do is to be as far away from land as possible. According to the article the windmills are 16km away which should keep them safe.

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Response to physioex (Reply #26)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 11:19 PM

28. Apparently I needed a sarcasm smilie.

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Response to Warren Stupidity (Reply #28)

Sun Jan 20, 2013, 12:11 AM

29. I will let it go this time, consider yourself warned. EOM

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 09:28 AM

6. So 9 years after the tsunami they'll have replaced 2% of their nuclear electricity?

That's a lot of LNG imports

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Response to phantom power (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:38 AM

8. 9 years? What? nt

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:52 AM

9. tick tock....

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Response to phantom power (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:57 AM

10. We almost made it through the summer with all the nukes turned off.

Japanese people have a tiny energy footprint compared to US.

Here, everyone hangs there laundry and we still ride bikes en masse.

I have hope.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 11:02 AM

11. Japanese people have a huge carbon footprint with the nukes turned off.

That's what matters.

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Response to wtmusic (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:18 PM

14. Okay. Check. "Energy footprint" = unimportant. nt

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #14)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:37 AM

15. That's correct.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with expending all the energy you want, as long as it's clean.

Any extra is radiated harmlessly out to space.

Repeat: energy footprint = unimportant.

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Response to wtmusic (Reply #15)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 04:04 AM

21. I suppose if there was an unlimited supply of clean energy, that would be true.

But that isn't the world we live in so I guess you're just trying to make an academic argument.

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #21)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 10:28 AM

22. Japan had a nearly unlimited supply of clean energy

and fortunately Abe plans to bring it back.

In the meantime, thanks for using less of the dirty stuff.

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Response to wtmusic (Reply #22)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 06:23 PM

23. Nuclear is "clean" even though it creates poisonous waste that we don't know how to dispose of? nt

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Response to Bonobo (Reply #23)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 08:39 PM

24. We know perfectly well how to dispose of it.

It's called the breeder reactor. IFR or LFTR or variants would allow us to have nuclear waste that is mostly inert in 300 years as opposed to the current 100k years that we have to store current waste. This, btw, is centuries shorter than the time CO2 will affect our climate.

All the while generating CO2 free sustainable energy.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #24)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 07:20 PM

25. That book you're linking to...

Looks like the ski industry wouldn't be a great long term investment.

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Response to wtmusic (Reply #25)

Sat Jan 19, 2013, 08:07 PM

27. I highly recommend it. It's a really relaxing read.

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #27)

Sun Jan 20, 2013, 12:32 AM

30. Thanks, will check it out. nt

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Response to wtmusic (Reply #11)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:46 AM

19. Your post #7 is somewhat heartening at least.

It would be an utter shame for the Japanese people to forgo sustainable energy sources in exchange for LGN and coal. The US is certainly looking to export its coal somewhere, and if Japan bites, they will be highly dependent on a dwindling fossil fuel resource.

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Response to phantom power (Reply #6)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:31 PM

12. The Tsunami in Japan was on 3-11-11

 

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Response to Demo_Chris (Reply #12)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 04:40 PM

13. exactly - on 2020 it will have been 9 years

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Response to phantom power (Reply #13)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:44 AM

18. Math, you can do it!

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Response to joshcryer (Reply #18)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 02:12 AM

20. BURN THE HERETIC!!! nt

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Response to phantom power (Reply #6)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:42 AM

16. The US fracking industry must be salivating.

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Response to Bonobo (Original post)

Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:33 AM

7. "It's goodbye nuclear, hello renewables"? Author is in denial.

"Newly appointed Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe has voiced his willingness to build new nuclear reactors despite widespread public opposition to atomic energy since the 2011 crisis at the Fukushima Dai-ichi nuclear power plant, reports said yesterday.

During an interview on Sunday with television network TBS, Abe said new reactors would be different from those at the Fukushima plant that were crippled by the earthquake and tsunami of 2011, major news outlets reporterd.

“New reactors will be totally different from the ones built 40 years ago, those at the Fukushima Dai-ichi plant that caused the crisis,” Abe was quoted by the Mainichi Shimbun daily as saying."

http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/world/archives/2013/01/01/2003551486

They will build the pretty sea-pinwheels to please the activists, then get down to the business of creating power for the rest of Japan.

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Response to wtmusic (Reply #7)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 01:43 AM

17. One can only hope they go after Gen IV.

If anyone can do it, it's the Japanese (being a country which has relied on nuclear for so long). I wish them the best of luck.

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