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Fri Nov 30, 2012, 10:39 PM

Climate change science gets more compelling as politicians fiddle

The politics and the science of global warming remain far apart. International climate negotiators in Doha, Qatar this week began talking about a climate treaty to be agreed by 2015 and implemented by 2020, when all that was supposed to be finished in Copenhagen three years ago. Inspiring. Meanwhile, the evidence supporting the broad international scientific consensus on climate change is only becoming more compelling, with three big, peer-reviewed studies out this week alone.

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In the early online edition of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences on Thursday, scientists from the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory and elsewhere further solidified the link between human activity and rising global temperatures. The researchers compared the findings of complex climate models against three decades of direct satellite observations. In response to human-related emissions, the models show a particular pattern of temperature change cooling in the upper atmosphere, warming in the lower atmosphere. That pattern, the scientists found, is also present in the satellite record. Using similar methods, they also found that natural climate variability is extremely unlikely to explain the modeled and observed results.

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As scientists continue to articulate the risks of global warming, the best policy response is obvious put a common price on carbon emissions and apply pressure on big polluting countries who refuse. But it's still anyone's guess when the politics will finally catch up.

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Reply Climate change science gets more compelling as politicians fiddle (Original post)
AgingAmerican Nov 2012 OP
JasonGWB Dec 2012 #1
hrmjustin Dec 2012 #2
JasonGWB Dec 2012 #3
Viking12 Dec 2012 #5
JasonGWB Dec 2012 #6
AgingAmerican Dec 2012 #4
raouldukelives Dec 2012 #7
CRH Dec 2012 #8
pscot Dec 2012 #9

Response to AgingAmerican (Original post)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 10:49 PM

1. I have slowly become a one issue voter...

and this is my one issue. I used to think of myself as a working class "jobs, jobs, jobs" Democrat but we really need to get our act together on this issue. The good news is that public opinion is on our side while the bad news, as always, is that those with financial power seem not to care that we are at the point of no return.

The this years corn crop failure scared me more than the growing storm/storm surge threat.

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Response to JasonGWB (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 3, 2012, 11:30 PM

2. Welcome to DU my Friend!

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 02:11 AM

3. Thanks for the welcome

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Response to hrmjustin (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 03:16 PM

5. I assume 'fiend' is a typo?



Welcome to DU, JasonGWB.

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Response to Viking12 (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 12:12 PM

6. Was it a typo?

I was wondering how they knew!

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Response to JasonGWB (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 4, 2012, 12:43 PM

4. Welcome and thanks for the response

I concur. This will soon be the only issue that matters.

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Response to JasonGWB (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:25 PM

7. Welcome and you are so right!

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Response to AgingAmerican (Original post)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 01:59 PM

8. What are they fiddling, Foggy Mountain breakdown? ... n/t

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Response to CRH (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 6, 2012, 11:55 PM

9. One broken string between us

and chaos.

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