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Fri May 4, 2012, 10:54 AM

Heartland Institute compares belief in global warming to mass murder

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/blog/2012/may/04/heartland-institute-global-warming-murder



Billboards in Chicago paid for by The Heartland Institute along the inbound Eisenhower Expressway in Maywood, Illinois. Photograph: The Heartland Institute



It really is hard to know where to begin with this one. But let's start with: "What on earth were they thinking?"

The Heartland Institute, a Chicago-based rightwing thinktank notorious for promoting climate scepticism, has launched quite possibly one of the most ill-judged poster campaigns in the history of ill-judged poster campaigns.

I'll let its own press release for its upcoming conference explain, as there's simply no need to finesse it further:

Billboards in Chicago paid for by The Heartland Institute point out that some of the world's most notorious criminals say they "still believe in global warming" – and ask viewers if they do, too…The billboard series features Ted Kaczynski, the infamous Unabomber; Charles Manson, a mass murderer; and Fidel Castro, a tyrant. Other global warming alarmists who may appear on future billboards include Osama bin Laden and James J. Lee (who took hostages inside the headquarters of the Discovery Channel in 2010).
These rogues and villains were chosen because they made public statements about how man-made global warming is a crisis and how mankind must take immediate and drastic actions to stop it.
Why did Heartland choose to feature these people on its billboards? Because what these murderers and madmen have said differs very little from what spokespersons for the United Nations, journalists for the "mainstream" media, and liberal politicians say about global warming. The point is that believing in global warming is not "mainstream," smart, or sophisticated. In fact, it is just the opposite of those things. Still believing in man-made global warming – after all the scientific discoveries and revelations that point against this theory – is more than a little nutty. In fact, some really crazy people use it to justify immoral and frightening behavior.

But then comes the best bit:

Of course, not all global warming alarmists are murderers or tyrants.

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Reply Heartland Institute compares belief in global warming to mass murder (Original post)
xchrom May 2012 OP
Scuba May 2012 #1
Jackpine Radical May 2012 #2
truth2power May 2012 #9
independentpiney May 2012 #14
dixiegrrrrl May 2012 #15
madmom May 2012 #3
TrogL May 2012 #4
AlbertCat May 2012 #6
Jack Rabbit May 2012 #13
66 dmhlt May 2012 #25
Dont call me Shirley May 2012 #18
lunasun May 2012 #5
AlbertCat May 2012 #7
Jackpine Radical May 2012 #8
Skittles May 2012 #16
Rozlee May 2012 #10
eyewall May 2012 #11
TalkingDog May 2012 #12
Turbineguy May 2012 #17
Dont call me Shirley May 2012 #19
Jackpine Radical May 2012 #20
20score May 2012 #21
Gabby Hayes May 2012 #22
Namvet67 May 2012 #23
SkatmanRoth May 2012 #24
Blue Owl May 2012 #26
panopeagenerosa May 2012 #27

Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 11:01 AM

1. Glad to see it. It should remind people that there are entities like the Heartland Institute...

... lying to and trying to scare Americans. I can't imagine that many people will fall for this BS.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 11:01 AM

2. Jeez. I heard Hitler liked dogs.

Maybe I should take my mutts out & shoot them.

OCCUPY THE KITCHEN

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #2)

Fri May 4, 2012, 02:12 PM

9. And Hitler was reportedly a vegetarian...

Guess that means I can"t be one.

Such nonsense.

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #2)

Fri May 4, 2012, 05:56 PM

14. Awww, I miss my Goldens nt

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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #2)

Fri May 4, 2012, 05:59 PM

15. Goldies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have Goldies!!!!!

And they look just like my guy.
But you have TWO....twice the love and silliness.
I love that reddish coat in a Golden.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 11:17 AM

3. Charles Manson believed/believes in teabagger/repug ideology because he

wanted a race war!

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 11:24 AM

4. Big screaming logical fallacy

This is a classic example of the Fallacy of the Undivided Middle.

Test case:

All cows are blue.
My dog is blue.
Therefore my dog is a cow.


Their "logic"

Various bad people believe in global warming.
You believe in global warming.
Therefore you are a bad person.


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Response to TrogL (Reply #4)

Fri May 4, 2012, 12:31 PM

6. More like...


This person thinks climate change is real
This person is very crazy
Therefore climate change is very crazy



See... it's even more absurd than your example!

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Response to TrogL (Reply #4)

Fri May 4, 2012, 04:14 PM

13. You get brownie points for pointing that out



Various bad people believe in global warming.
You believe in global warming.
Therefore you are a bad person.

The argument is an illicit process, also known as as the undistributed middle (various bad people in the example).

Ted Kaczynski is not all bad people, anyway. The Koch Brothers deny anthropogenic global warming, at least publicly, and they want to destroy American democracy. They funnel money into ALEC, which pushes state-level legislation aimed as denying the right to vote to members of targeted demographics. That makes them downright evil, at least in my Weltgeist.

Moreover, Kaczynski, although a mass muderer, is a still very intelligent man, unlike such global warming deniers as Senator Imhofe.

Many people would not consider Fidel Castro a bad person. Even granting the Heartland Institute that point for the sake of argument, then they have shown us three people of at least arguably poor morality who believe in global warming, hardly a significant sample by any reasonable standard. It does not prove that belief in global warming causes mass murderers to act as they do.

The only thing I can see correlating to a belief/disbelief is intelligence, which I define as as the knowledge of and willingness to accept facts. There's no morality in that. Even mass murderers and tyrants are capable of accepting facts, even unpleasant ones. It is only fools like Senator Imhofe who consistently do not.

This billboard reminds me of the headlines I see on certain publications while standing the supermarket checkout line. Such publication assert as facts things I either don't believe or don't care whether they are true or false or, more often than not, both. I didn't know that Charlie Manson or Ted Kaczynski believe in global warming; in fact, I never gave it a thought and I still don't care. As for Castro, I'm glad to hear he does. Until recently, he was the president of his small nation and I hope he did what he could in that capacity to prevent anthropogenic global warming and alleviate its effects.

The bothers me more that a United States Senator would deny anthropogenic global warming, but Senator Imhofe, I assume, is as stupid as he appears and that is too stupid to be really cynical. I'm less certain of the Koch brothers and other executives of private concerns that produce or transport fossil fuels who publicly deny anthropogenic global warming. They aren't as stupid as some of their bought and paid for senators and congressmen. These are the people who stand to lose money in the short term as they make their product more environmentally friendly and in the long term as fossil fuels are first supplemented and then supplanted by renewable energy sources. They could make money investing in renewable energy, but in the short term, and only in the short term, they will make a lot more money continuing to produce environmentally harmful products with environmentally harmful methods and it is a lot cheaper to invest in politicians who do nothing and public relations consultants who lie for living. I know that almost all fossil fuel executives deny anthropogenic global warming publicly, but I don't know what any of them believe about it privately. Nevertheless, I can't assume they're all as stupid as Senator Imhofe appears to be. Do I think that they're cynical enough to knowingly lie in order to protect their profits at the expense of the rest of the planet? Yes.

Let propose a better proposition than All who believe in anthropogenic global warming are bad people. Let's try this one: All who deny anthropogenic global warming are liars or fools. I think this alternative will hold up a lot better.

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Response to Jack Rabbit (Reply #13)

Sat May 5, 2012, 09:58 AM

25. Sometimes you just gotta wonder if Wingnuts do ...

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Response to TrogL (Reply #4)

Fri May 4, 2012, 08:40 PM

18. Directv logic (obviously Rupert murderoch logic)

If you dont have directv
Your daughter will marry a hardrocker
And your grandbaby will have a nose ring

The creation of errant thinking.

Or Dahlia (Suburgatory) logic

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 11:40 AM

5. probably right after that curve that smells like rotten eggs on Eisenhower

next board I predict- Summit or Gary!

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 12:35 PM

7. I wonder how many crazy mass murderers think...

.... going into Iraq was a good idea?

Can we see pictures of them?

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Response to AlbertCat (Reply #7)

Fri May 4, 2012, 01:52 PM

8. Happy to oblige with a few:







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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #8)

Fri May 4, 2012, 07:24 PM

16. don't forget this one

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 02:20 PM

10. Pope Benedict XVI should be on there as well.

As an atheist, I thoroughly dislike the man and his male-dominated organization and will make no apologies for it. But, I have to give him props for speaking out in favor of the theory of anthropologic global climate change and advocating world abandonment of the use of fossil fuels and embracement of green technology. Now, another good picture they can put up there would be of Newt Gingrich, pre-Repubican Candidate in 2012. And, of course, that ever-loving flip-flopper, Mitt Romney, who once also spoke up about the dangers of man-made climate change before morphing into Mitt the Serverly Conservative.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 03:13 PM

11. They call it the 'Center on Climate and Environmental Policy'

A right wing think tank that wants to promote POLICY.

Here's a link to their page: http://www.globalwarmingheartland.org/

I'm so tired of republicans using their knowledge of our political system's frailties to generate policy that harms the environment, poisons American's and destroys vast natural resources purely in the name of maximizing corporate profits.

The Heartland Institute's Center on Climate and Environmental Policy produces an ambitious program of research and educational projects in defense of free-market environmentalism. It has assembled a team of leading scientists and economic experts to participate in the production of books, videos, a monthly public policy newspaper, events, and other public relations activities.

Heartland has organized and hosted six International Conferences on Climate Change, events that attracted extensive international attention to the debate taking place in the scientific community over the causes, extent, and consequences of climate change.


Scientific debate can be steered off course by influencing the source of scientific funding. Unfortunately. Who but the billionaires could better achieve that.

Last I heard there was no debate. Even the guy at NASA who was considered the spokesman for the denial crowd said (in a radio interview my wife and I heard) that it's an accepted fact among ALL climate scientists, even the bought ones including himself, that man's effect is well above 50%. I heard him say the argument is whether the number is closer to 60% or 80%. And yet the impression put forth by groups like Heartland is that any man induced effect at all is fabricated science.

I wonder if they lobbied for it to be called Heartland Security instead of Homeland Security?

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 03:36 PM

12. That's what you would call your Muddled Message.

The bomb making anti-industrial mass murder believes in global warming which will cause mass deaths by means of industrial pollution at the hands of the 1%.

Clear as mud.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 08:00 PM

17. Ted Bundy drank water.

Do You?

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 08:48 PM

19. The Noheartland Dimstitute

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Response to Dont call me Shirley (Reply #19)

Fri May 4, 2012, 09:14 PM

20. Shirley, you jest.




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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Fri May 4, 2012, 11:07 PM

21. They also believe in gravity, precipitation and that water is hydrogen and oxygen molecules.

Guess I'll have to deny those things too.

Being a bad person, like Manson is, doesn't make you stupid. Putting up posters like these could only mean the people at The Heartland Institute are stupid, or they think the public is. (On that count they may have a partial point, Beck still has a following.) But anyone who is smart enough to understand anthropogenic global warming is going to be made sick by the idiocy of these ads. Who the hell are they targeting?

A nine year old child would find this ad campaign insulting and tear it to shreds all day.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 03:27 AM

22. Mass murder is too much for one man

Speaking as a retired mass murderer, I am annoyed that Global Warming didn't kick in earlier so I could spend more time with the family. As for Heartland, I thought we already talked about letting the devos play with crayons.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 06:16 AM

23. It should read...."Global warming is so obvious, even I believe it"

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 07:17 AM

24. If the science was on Heartland's side, they wouldn't need emotion to advance their point

Heartland has to resort to an emotion based argument to get their point across. It is all they have.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2012, 02:00 PM

26. What a big dumb billboard.

Insulting on every level.

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Response to xchrom (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2012, 08:18 AM

27. Pol Pot

 

enjoyed driving around in a gasoline powered car AND he wore a Rolex. Some say he also liked jazz but that's just a rumor put out by some of Lawrence Welk's more unscrupulous fans.

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