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RandySF

(58,447 posts)
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:19 AM Mar 2012

Son might be going into combined class next year.

Our son will be heading to years grade this August and he might be sharing a combined class with 2nd graders. He should be ok emotionally as he just turned 6 and will know a lot of the 2nd graders from after-school, his pre school days and the neighborhood. But I am not sure this will be good for him academically. Anyway, I wondered if someone might have similar experiences to share before I "set my hair on fire".

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Son might be going into combined class next year. (Original Post) RandySF Mar 2012 OP
All three of our boys did Multi-age in 1st and 2nd and did great. yourout Mar 2012 #1
I was in a split class. JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author MikeOlsen Mar 2012 #3
This was very common during the leading edge of the baby boom eridani Mar 2012 #4
0. Son might be going into combined class next year. bikeboy Mar 2012 #5
I taught mixed grade classes for years IllinoisBirdWatcher Mar 2012 #6
All other matters being equal, a mixed grade setting is more natural and can be a better thing. NYC_SKP Mar 2012 #7
Oh, I'm no expert. RandySF Mar 2012 #8
Education is everyone's business. Only one group would be better... NYC_SKP Mar 2012 #9
+++ mopinko Mar 2012 #11
My son was in a combined class in 4th grade. murielm99 Mar 2012 #10

yourout

(7,524 posts)
1. All three of our boys did Multi-age in 1st and 2nd and did great.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:27 AM
Mar 2012

They had the same wonderful teacher(Mrs Mize).

I would say she had a part to play in our oldest son now being a 3rd grade teacher.

JNelson6563

(28,151 posts)
2. I was in a split class.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:30 AM
Mar 2012

My experience was 4th grade, we were in with 5th graders. It helped that we had a very good teach. It wasn't terribly different from a regular school year, really. One grade did assigned work while the teacher addressed the other and then a switch. And of course there we things we did the same/together.

It was pretty much a non-event but, again, we had a very good teacher that we all liked and respected so there weren't any problems. If you're fortunate enough to also have a good teacher for your child's class this could be a very good experience!

Oh. lastly, I did learn a few things from over-hearing the 5th graders' lessons, fwiw. I distinctly remember that was when I learned the only number you can't divide is zero~~when Mrs. Van Dellan taught it 5th grade math students.

Julie

Response to RandySF (Original post)

eridani

(51,907 posts)
4. This was very common during the leading edge of the baby boom
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:47 AM
Mar 2012

Schools expanded dramatically in the early 50s, and the intermediate stage often involved mixed classes. The last of the pre-boomers needed just one first grade class. The first boomers necessitated a mixed class step, and from then on there were two first grades. It worked out fine for me.

bikeboy

(124 posts)
5. 0. Son might be going into combined class next year.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:48 AM
Mar 2012

Both of my sons were educated in split class rooms in elementary school and they both did very well. Split classes most often have the highest caliber teachers capable of delivering a curriculum that supports both grade levels and they are able to separate their time equally between the two groups of students. The split classes also in our East Bay School district, (WCCUSD) tend to be smaller due to the split and what the demands are on the teacher( preping for two grade levels every day). Setting your hair on fire is not the answer. Joining the PTA and SSC (school site council) and volunteering in the class room is the answer. As parents, every positive action we take in our children's education has a positive outcome from my experience. The other thing that happened for both of my sons is that they saw other students doing class work that they aspired to do and in the end made them better students. Check out the teacher, if they're doing splits they gotta be good. Just my 2 cents. My oldest will graduate HS this year and his brother next year. they're both pretty cool dudes.

IllinoisBirdWatcher

(2,315 posts)
6. I taught mixed grade classes for years
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:52 AM
Mar 2012

1-2 team, 3-4-5th grade team, 4-5, 5-6. I loved each of those years (more than half of my total career) and so did the kids. Being the only "split" in a school because of enrollment issues is often a problem because of other teachers' and parents' perceptions which then reflect upon kid perceptions. Working in a building where there are multi-age teams is fantastic for kids. So much cooperative learning goes on. Our assumption always was that most kids from the lower grade would stay with the same teacher the following year. Instead of 30 new kids to figure out in September, half the class comes back, knows the teacher and the structure, and they get right to work. Not only that, they guide and mentor the new half of the class.

Look at both history and the "real" world before forming an opinion. The majority of children throughout US history were in multi-age classes including the one-room 1-8 schoolhouse. Only in cities and recent suburban history have the graded classrooms become the norm.

As for the real world, do you work in a business, a department, or on a team where every employee must be exactly the same age to qualify as a team member? Do you "set your hair on fire" when an older or younger member joins your business team?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
7. All other matters being equal, a mixed grade setting is more natural and can be a better thing.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 12:58 AM
Mar 2012

One of the features of modern "education" is the unnatural sorting of individuals by date of manufacture.

Crazy shit. Good luck, RandySF, with a parent like you he'll be fine.

You should become a co-host of the education group!

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
9. Education is everyone's business. Only one group would be better...
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 01:03 AM
Mar 2012

...as a host or co-host of an education discussion board than parents, IMHO:

Students.

But I think your son might be a bit young, still!

murielm99

(30,712 posts)
10. My son was in a combined class in 4th grade.
Thu Mar 1, 2012, 02:08 AM
Mar 2012

It was good for him, because he was able to have math with the fifth graders in his class.

My son did well.

They had a good teacher, and I don't know of any students or parents who were unhappy with the arrangement.

FWIW, I was in a combined first and second grade classroom, for the first half of first grade. It was fifty years ago.

When we moved after Christmas, I found out that I was far ahead of my new classmates in a larger community, in a strictly first grade classroom. We were using the same textbooks, too.

I think your son will be fine. Just keep up your interest in his progress.

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