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Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:46 AM

Teachers' evaluations on steroids.

Now I think I've heard everything.

In an affluent suburb in northern New Jersey, an assistant superintendent has a new mandate for non-tenured teachers. These teachers need to record (write down) every interaction with a student(s) for the entire school day and what the results were. Example: You have to record that you asked a general question to the class (the question verbatim) and asked for the answer. You call on a student and have to specifically name that student, what s/he said,what you responded, what other students said, and so on. And you have to stop teaching in order to write this all down and hand it in at the end of the school day. A virtual diary.

BTW, the assistant superintendent of schools used to be a math teacher, only understands numbers, not people.

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Reply Teachers' evaluations on steroids. (Original post)
no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 OP
narnian60 Feb 2013 #1
duffyduff Feb 2013 #2
no_hypocrisy Feb 2013 #3
LWolf Feb 2013 #4
mbperrin Feb 2013 #5
Ka hrnt Feb 2013 #7
HiPointDem Feb 2013 #15
Ka hrnt Feb 2013 #6
duffyduff Feb 2013 #11
proud2BlibKansan Feb 2013 #8
Smarmie Doofus Feb 2013 #10
Squinch Feb 2013 #14
Smarmie Doofus Feb 2013 #9
duffyduff Feb 2013 #12
Squinch Feb 2013 #13

Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 09:50 AM

1. Start the camcorder!

I'm not writing all this crap down.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 10:52 AM

2. This is an excuse to dump a teacher before he or she reaches "tenure."

Nothing more, nothing less.

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Response to duffyduff (Reply #2)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 10:54 AM

3. Total agreement.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 11:18 AM

4. "Sorry, class."

"I'm too busy writing down everything I say and everything you say to teach you anything today."

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 01:06 PM

5. This is required of the special ed inclusion teachers in our district.

And yes, it is just as bulky and just as dumb as it sounds.

We've slowed it down some by requesting feedback from admins on EVERY entry to see if they think:
1. it's in good order for a report
2. the interactions were valuable, and if so, why? and if not, why not?
3. Overall evaluation of the document daily for relevance and assistance to students.

They haven't been able to explain why these requests of ours aren't good, and they don't want to say they don't have time, because of course, that would mean that nobody reads them really, and therefore, they are no good to anyone for anything.

I'll let you know how it works out. Right now, we're waiting for responses.

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Response to mbperrin (Reply #5)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 04:02 PM

7. Great way of solving the problem...

...dump it right back in the laps of the geniuses who created it! Far too many administrators need to be subjected to the absurdity of their own ideas, maybe then they'd get a clue.

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Response to Ka hrnt (Reply #7)

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 02:20 AM

15. +1. though it seems like anyone with half a brain would understand how unworkable that is.

 

so methinks they did it on purpose, to drive people out before they get tenure, or to wreck their classes so they get low ratings.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 04:01 PM

6. Sigh...

"...the assistant superintendent of schools used to be a math teacher..."


I'm going to guess he/she wasn't a terribly good teacher if he/she does not realize how horribly disruptive (and useless) this is.

"only understands numbers"


Again, I'm going to guess he/she doesn't really understand numbers either if they don't understand that a bunch of worthless data isn't going to be useful (and again, not worth the cost of collection/analysis).

This could very well be the dumbest idea I've heard come out of education...and I've heard a lot of stupid #@! come out of Principals, AP's, Superintendents, and other "educational experts".

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Response to Ka hrnt (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:51 AM

11. yep to this

"I'm going to guess he/she wasn't a terribly good teacher if he/she does not realize how horribly disruptive (and useless) this is."--

That is why he is an administrator. He became one because he had the right connections instead of being fired like he should have been or not hired in the first place.

The bad part of this idiocy is teachers have to carry it out or else be charged with "insubordination."

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 07:00 PM

8. And who is going to read all this nonsense?

I'd be writing down a lot of 'blah blah blah' in my journals.

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Response to proud2BlibKansan (Reply #8)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:45 PM

10. Highly-paid administrators. Then they'll score it w. a "rubric". n/t

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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #10)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 03:43 PM

14. The word "rubric" makes me gak.

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Sat Feb 16, 2013, 08:43 PM

9. Gates got 800 on his math SATs.

>>BTW, the assistant superintendent of schools used to be a math teacher, only understands numbers, not people.>>>

It is said that he would ask first dates at Harvard what THEIR sat scores were.

That was his "ice breaker".

It's not clear if he ever had a second date.

Holy mother of jesus. People like this are now in charge of education in America.


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Response to Smarmie Doofus (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 17, 2013, 10:53 AM

12. Another reason SAT scores aren't indicators of IQ or much else.

n/t

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Response to no_hypocrisy (Original post)

Tue Feb 19, 2013, 03:42 PM

13. And then, the superintendent is going to what with this?

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