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Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:20 PM

Predicting markets tanking tomorrow, and until agreement reached.

Thoughts? Downturn > recession begins tomorrow???

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Reply Predicting markets tanking tomorrow, and until agreement reached. (Original post)
elleng Dec 2012 OP
bluestateguy Dec 2012 #1
elleng Dec 2012 #4
flamingdem Dec 2012 #2
Livluvgrow Dec 2012 #3
elleng Dec 2012 #5
Livluvgrow Dec 2012 #6
Warpy Dec 2012 #7
elleng Dec 2012 #8
bemildred Dec 2012 #9
elleng Dec 2012 #10
bemildred Dec 2012 #11

Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:23 PM

1. Right now I am focused upon what is happening in Newtown

If you feed the trolls by paying attention to this "fiscal cliff" you give it a legitimacy it doesn't deserve.

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Response to bluestateguy (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:29 PM

4. I'm with you in Newtown,

but the 'cliff' is real, not troll-related, due to increase in tax rates beginning January 1. IF there's a decent interval after which an agreement is reached, and decent tax rates return, things OK, but for the long-term, things can really be bad.

AND there's Debt Limit, coming up >.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:24 PM

2. I just checked, the futures are down

found this from DU!:

dow futures just plunged 250 points. omg the mayans were right!
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Per CNBC. Panic mode over there. Republican plan to tank the economy in place. Luckily, Pres.Obama now has MUCH more leverage. (Even though I feel he ...

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:26 PM

3. trolls?

I and I am sure many others on here with retirement accounts linked to the market care a whole lot about the market.

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Response to Livluvgrow (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:30 PM

5. Damn right.

No trolls here.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 09:31 PM

6. I am thinking your right on the money literally

News moves the markets and there doesn't appear to be much good news out of Washington these days. We all know the reasons and the asses responsible, but bad news is still bad news.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:22 AM

7. There is going to be a downturn next week

as investors dump stocks to take advantage of the last few days of lower capital gains taxes.

That's my prediction.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #7)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 12:27 AM

8. Yes, that too, Warpy;

had forgotten, and was just thinking of effect of higher tax rates Jan. 1, Debt Limit, and sequestration.

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Response to elleng (Original post)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 08:36 AM

9. I don't expect a recession.

The markets will be unhappy, yes. A buying opportunity in January, yes.

Edit: you can argue that we never left a recession, jobs-wise. I think the markets will do well next year, possibly even crazy well.

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Response to bemildred (Reply #9)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 10:47 AM

10. Will do 'crazy well' after/if agreement

and we all get back into economy's moving up as it has been. Sure hoping for that, but not at all encouraged w behavior of this Congress.

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Response to elleng (Reply #10)

Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:47 PM

11. It's gambling for sure.

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In the present circumstances, I prefer to sit tight rather than engage in loss-taking. There are a lot of reasons for "negative volatility", the time of year, the uncertainty about taxes, the fecklessness of our Congress, but trends have been good and consistent, the wars are being wound down, long-term if we go over the cliff and adjustments are made necesssary, that's a good thing, it's long overdue; so, no need to assume Armageddon is coming just yet.

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