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Fla Dem

(23,556 posts)
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:34 PM Mar 2016

BS Group:Still in denial.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1280148274

In the above referenced post an excerpt from usuncut, a BS blog said the following:

At the end of the night, Hillary Clinton only increased her delegate lead by 57, leaving Sanders plenty of room to eliminate her advantage in the 24 remaining states. A candidate needs 2,383 delegates to clinch the Democratic nomination, and as of March 16, Clinton only has 1,094 delegates to Sanders’ 774. All of the states most favorable to Clinton have already voted, and the states most favorable to Sanders are still on the calendar. If anyone should be worried about their chances at the nomination waning over time, it’s Hillary Clinton.


Guess math is not their strong suit.
Going into last night's elections the delegate count was HRC/767, BS/553; a 214 delegate advantage for HRC.
After the elections, HRC's delegate count is 1132 to BS's delegate count of 818; a 314 delegate advantage for HRC. She increaed her delegate count by 100, not 57. With 2383 delegates needed to win, HRC is more than halfway there. With Super Delegates she only needs 784 more delegates; while he needs 1539.

***************************** HRC****BS
TOTAL PLEDGE DELEGATES...........1132......818
Super Delegates......................... 467........26
Total Including Super Delegates.....1,599.....844




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BS Group:Still in denial. (Original Post) Fla Dem Mar 2016 OP
You spelled the word wrong: they are flat-out lying GusBob Mar 2016 #1
Bernie has to win all the remaining states cosmicone Mar 2016 #2
Just as in 2008, Superdelegates will go with the majority of delegates. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2016 #4
They are either intentionally uninformed or making stuff up. yallerdawg Mar 2016 #3
And to leave math and go to probabilities... spooky3 Mar 2016 #5
I am in NY! Her Sister Mar 2016 #13
BS doesn't have a chance in CA. stopbush Mar 2016 #17
I blame our educational system Stuckinthebush Mar 2016 #6
LOL, Love it! Fla Dem Mar 2016 #7
spectastic!!! Her Sister Mar 2016 #14
It is like skating at the Olympics. fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #8
Have you read the one with "analysis" in bold? displacedtexan Mar 2016 #9
tom is measuring the drapes for bernie on his show right now. stonecutter357 Mar 2016 #10
LOL, K&R fleabiscuit Mar 2016 #11
I just heard that. He repeated that there was only a 57 delegate difference in the elections Fla Dem Mar 2016 #15
Another Liar: Thom Hartmann GusBob Mar 2016 #16
"Memo to him: Millenials don't buy gold or need super beets." Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #19
Math is math Gothmog Mar 2016 #12
And "Math" obviously has a Hillary Rodham Clinton bias. Nate Silver has called this one "over". Tarheel_Dem Mar 2016 #18
Give it time... MrWendel Mar 2016 #20
It's tough pill to swallow.. beachbumbob Mar 2016 #21

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
1. You spelled the word wrong: they are flat-out lying
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:43 PM
Mar 2016

Late last night the Berniebro lies were flying so fast. I counted 5 flat lies posted in 30 mins or so.

And they claim HRC is a liar. They are lying about that too. Nothing new under the sun, lying when you are getting smoked in a political campaign is your last hope

They are lying about flipping the superdelegates too. This came out of the BS campaign war room. Its not flipping its hijacking

When an embedded reporter for MSNBC pointed out they don't have the groundwork to "flip" SD's, the campaign staff had a collective Homer Simpson D"OH! moment.

They cant flip SD's its another lie. Its all they have left.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
2. Bernie has to win all the remaining states
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:50 PM
Mar 2016

by a margin of 58-42 just to break even with Hillary.

This includes NY, NJ, PA, MD, AZ and CA where Hillary is heavily favored. HI, RI, ID, WY, MT have very few delegates -- even if he wins all of them, he won't make a dent.

Trying to flip superdelegates can be its own show on comedy central.

SMH

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. Just as in 2008, Superdelegates will go with the majority of delegates.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:52 PM
Mar 2016

Sanders will not arrive at the Convention with a majority.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
3. They are either intentionally uninformed or making stuff up.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:51 PM
Mar 2016

There are around 2,400 delegate votes left. Around 200 are uncommitted superdelegates.

She needs around 784 to outright win the nomination before the convention.

Hillary needs to win about 32% of these remaining delegates to get to the nominating number.

The question is not if, but how soon?

spooky3

(34,388 posts)
5. And to leave math and go to probabilities...
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:53 PM
Mar 2016

Won't Clinton's chances of winning NY (given she was a NY Senator) and California (with a high minority population) be fairly high if conditions stay as they are now?

stopbush

(24,388 posts)
17. BS doesn't have a chance in CA.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 04:20 PM
Mar 2016

Who is going to get the Latino, black, women and Democratic faithful votes? Hillary. That's the ball game.

Of the 18,245,970 California voters registered for the November 6, 2012, general election:

43.7% were Democrats
29.4% were Republicans
6.0% were affiliated with other political parties
20.9% were unaffiliated ("Decline to State" or "No Party Preference&quot voters (Source: Wikipedia)

There are no votes here for Bernie to get.

fleabiscuit

(4,542 posts)
8. It is like skating at the Olympics.
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 12:56 PM
Mar 2016

It rolls around every four years and once the candidate gets off the ice she/he goes to the kiss and cry area to wait for the results.

Winning candidate supporters say it was because she/he skated like a god, and if they lose supporters piss and moan about the judges and the scoring system.

displacedtexan

(15,696 posts)
9. Have you read the one with "analysis" in bold?
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 01:01 PM
Mar 2016

There's no concrete data offered... Just insults and wishful thinking.

Fla Dem

(23,556 posts)
15. I just heard that. He repeated that there was only a 57 delegate difference in the elections
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:26 PM
Mar 2016

last night and he quoted the post on DU! I yelled back at him, "No it wasn't 57 delegate difference it was 100!" To be fair, as strong a Bernie supporter as he is, he pretty much told his listeners that there was only a slim chance Bernie would win.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
16. Another Liar: Thom Hartmann
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 02:29 PM
Mar 2016

sold his soul for the revolution

Memo to him: Millenials don't buy gold or need super beets. Your advertisers hate that demographic

 

beachbumbob

(9,263 posts)
21. It's tough pill to swallow..
Wed Mar 16, 2016, 04:57 PM
Mar 2016

Sander supporters for the most part are the extreme idealists of our party...so reality can be a bitter pill. In time, most will be ok

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