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Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:16 PM Feb 2016

"Bernie Sanders’s attack on reality"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/bernie-sanderss-attack-on-reality/2016/02/12/e0656e04-d1b1-11e5-b2bc-988409ee911b_story.html

"Ms. Clinton, pointing out that Mr. Obama had to fight tooth-and-nail even for relatively centrist solutions such as the Affordable Care Act, draws the lesson that the next president must have a strong sense of practicality and realism; big rallies cannot wish away the complex politics of Congress. Mr. Sanders, by contrast, claims that Mr. Obama had insufficient revolutionary zeal. That’s why he proposed that the incumbent Democratic president be challenged by a primary opponent in 2012."

The difference, Hillary = Action, Bernie = Broken Promises.
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"Bernie Sanders’s attack on reality" (Original Post) Dawson Leery Feb 2016 OP
K & R SunSeeker Feb 2016 #1
I can't believe it's working Treant Feb 2016 #2
Makes you wonder why his "co-workers" aren't standing with him FloridaBlues Feb 2016 #8
Why wasn't there a revolution during the worse upaloopa Feb 2016 #3
He has been influenced too long by the revolution of the groups like Thinkingabout Feb 2016 #5
Yes of course. Tommy2Tone Feb 2016 #4
No Biggie 72DejaVu Feb 2016 #6
His entire old stump speech is not based in reality of here and now FloridaBlues Feb 2016 #7
Bernie Sanders is following his own fantasy pandr32 Feb 2016 #9
This is exactly why I support Hillary over Sanders. n/t Zing Zing Zingbah Feb 2016 #10
So ironic that Hillary has to strongly defend President Obama from attacks by the other Cha Feb 2016 #11

Treant

(1,968 posts)
2. I can't believe it's working
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:35 PM
Feb 2016

as well as it is. Would free solid platinum quality healthcare and free college be nice?

Sure, but how does that get done? Executive order? You can't do that, budget considerations are the sole consideration of the House. Congressional coattails? How? Invested political capital? Bernie doesn't have any and can't even get appreciable superdelegates or endorsements from Congress.

Besides, imagine the structural chaos during the changeovers--including things Medicare does not currently cover (like obstetrics).

FloridaBlues

(4,007 posts)
8. Makes you wonder why his "co-workers" aren't standing with him
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 07:33 PM
Feb 2016

When it comes to some voters they hear "free" and tune out everything else that's reality based

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
3. Why wasn't there a revolution during the worse
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:37 PM
Feb 2016

recession since the Great Depression?
Was it Obama's fault?

If he would have said come on gang let's march against the war and for free education and health care, we all would have stopped being key board warriors and joined occupy and the anti war marches?

Or is that a matter of taking personal responsibility?

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
5. He has been influenced too long by the revolution of the groups like
Sat Feb 13, 2016, 04:58 PM
Feb 2016

Sandinistas. Those have not worked into utopias. Having everyone pulling their weight will work better for a longer time.

pandr32

(11,578 posts)
9. Bernie Sanders is following his own fantasy
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 12:57 PM
Feb 2016

...and most of us know that fantasies should just stay fantasies

Cha

(297,124 posts)
11. So ironic that Hillary has to strongly defend President Obama from attacks by the other
Sun Feb 14, 2016, 01:31 PM
Feb 2016

challenger in the Democratic Primary.

My money is on Hillary and the President.

Thank you, Dawson!

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