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Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:42 PM

Howard Dean is Right on the Fiscal Cliff

Posted on November 29, 2012
Howard Dean: Going Off Fiscal Cliff The "Best Deal Progressive Democrats Are Going To Get"

HOWARD DEAN: I make the argument that going off the -- as you call it the curb, I call it the slope, the press calls it the cliff, is actually the best deal progressive Democrats are going to get. And here's why. One, we get the Clinton tax rates on everybody. Will it cause a problem? Yes. There will be a short recession, and it will be painful. But two, we get defense cuts. Republicans are never going to agree to that. And three, there are some human services cuts, which we're not going to like. But it's the least possible damage.

Now what do we get in exchange? A serious down payment of the deficit. The Wall Street people, who wringing their hands of this, are really full of it because what they're going to see is a big drop on Wall Street while all the hype comes and then it's going to be roaring back because finally somebody has done something serious about the deficit.

So, I think the fiscal curb, as you call it, is the best deal that progressive Democrats are going to get. And I think it's the best deal in the long run, not the short run.

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ellisonz Dec 2012 OP
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #1
ellisonz Dec 2012 #4
Doctor_J Dec 2012 #5
ellisonz Dec 2012 #7
Faryn Balyncd Dec 2012 #2
yourout Dec 2012 #3
russspeakeasy Dec 2012 #6
ellisonz Dec 2012 #8
russspeakeasy Dec 2012 #9

Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:45 PM

1. There are still a few real Dems left in the party

Sadly no one, especially the president, ever listens to them

Rec

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:53 PM

4. Yes there are...

...Obama needs to stop playing footsie with these bastards.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:08 PM

5. I don't think he's playing footsie

I think his ideology is closer to Boner than it is to Dean & Sanders & Grayson. He's pretty much A Reaganite at heart. If I were those people I would say, "we and our constituents are not getting any support from the president, and until he starts siding with us instead of the Republicans, he can try to pass laws with them instead of us".

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Response to Doctor_J (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:17 PM

7. I don't doubt his heart...

...but I do doubt his political advisers. We're going over the cliff. It's just a question of who comes out on top.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:47 PM

2. Stealing the Trust Fund to subsidize general fund deficits is wrong. Let's go over the cliff.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 08:49 PM

3. +1....he is spot on.

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Response to ellisonz (Original post)

Tue Dec 18, 2012, 09:15 PM

6. Lets go.

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Response to russspeakeasy (Reply #6)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:47 PM

8. Over The Bloody Cliff!



Also: Go Packers.

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Response to ellisonz (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 20, 2012, 05:23 PM

9. Damn right.....on both counts !!

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