Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:19 PM
grantcart (38,888 posts)
The only thing that the President has agreed to is:To let the Republicans destroy themselves with their own internal contradictions. He is going to wait patiently and not getting what he wants will force a massive Republican capitulation in January. Lawrence O had one of the DC Liberal think tank with high credentials on SS on last night. He said that the CPI adjustment that they are talking about is 1) more accurate than the current system 2) cost seniors $3 a month 3) would be acceptable if it were traded for other issues that are more important to our side, including raising the cap. They ran out of time and LO said that he would post an extended interview on the Last Word web page but I couldn't find it. Remember LO's bromide from an earlier negotiaion: Nothing is agreed to until everything is agreed to. For the Hair on Fire brigade in GD they are off to the races even though the track doesn't open for a couple of weeks. Remember how their hair was on fire about the President 'selling out Elizabeth Warren'? Turns out the President, Reid and Pelosi had a better idea. Rather than lead the buearacracy, put her on the committee that sets the policy and writes the budget. You couldn't tell the hair burners to be patient then and they won't listen now. The President is an exceedingly patient person and he has absolutely turned the fiscal cliff around on the Republicans (remember how everyone said at the time that he was giving away the store?) This is going to be fun to watch.
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19 replies, 984 views
| Author | Time | Post | |
| grantcart | Dec 2012 | OP | |
| DrDan | Dec 2012 | #1 | |
| elias7 | Dec 2012 | #5 | |
| DrDan | Dec 2012 | #6 | |
| Cha | Dec 2012 | #8 | |
| Cha | Dec 2012 | #7 | |
| thelordofhell | Dec 2012 | #2 | |
| sharp_stick | Dec 2012 | #3 | |
| wandy | Dec 2012 | #4 | |
| sheshe2 | Dec 2012 | #9 | |
| Whisp | Dec 2012 | #10 | |
| Hekate | Dec 2012 | #16 | |
| Neon2012 | Dec 2012 | #11 | |
| freshwest | Jan 2013 | #19 | |
| Cha | Dec 2012 | #12 | |
| grantcart | Dec 2012 | #13 | |
| Kath1 | Dec 2012 | #14 | |
| great white snark | Dec 2012 | #15 | |
| Hekate | Dec 2012 | #17 | |
| grantcart | Jan 2013 | #18 |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:38 PM
DrDan (14,838 posts)
1. more n-dimentional chess?
Response to DrDan (Reply #1)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:13 PM
elias7 (1,092 posts)
5. Can we cut out the n-dimensional chess bullshit?
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It comes off as smugly arrogant and insulting. It had its day. Now please, just give it up. We are on the same team.
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Response to elias7 (Reply #5)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:16 PM
DrDan (14,838 posts)
6. and the "hair on fire brigade" is not "smugly arrogant and insulting"?
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particularly since we are "on the same team"
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Response to DrDan (Reply #6)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:24 PM
Cha (125,772 posts)
8. So, the ones threatening to
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stay home in 2014, like they did in 2010, and spewing hate on this President don't have their hair on fire?
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Response to DrDan (Reply #1)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:24 PM
Cha (125,772 posts)
7. Yeah, you have a problem with that?
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:39 PM
thelordofhell (3,849 posts)
2. Proceeeeed republicans..............
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 12:47 PM
sharp_stick (9,262 posts)
3. It's nice to read at least one
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post on this site that doesn't have the poster retiring to the fainting couch.
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 01:10 PM
wandy (1,776 posts)
4. I'm starting to wonder if it's something like this .....
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We cheer and applaud when the world class chess player takes a piece from the republicans, who are trying to play lier's checkers, but tear our hair out because we don't understand his latest move.
Forgetting entirely that the republicans only motivation is that their 1% masters will have them eat the southernmost end off a north bound night's horse if they give away so much as a pawn. Republicans do not; can not, play an honest game. The Koch Kings, the NRA and the Queen of Wallmart will scream 'off with their heads' should they loose. The Arch Bishop Norquist will send forth the most frothing at the mouth teabagers to primary them should they compromise. Has to be frustrating to play chess with Teapublicans, but I bet it's a bitch being that Orange Boner pawn. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:26 PM
sheshe2 (5,434 posts)
9. Thank you Grantcart...
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A voice of reason!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:40 PM
Whisp (17,881 posts)
10. Thank you for this grantcart, I need that.
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here's a little present for you in my appreciation:
One of the sweetest voice combos out there I think. |
Response to Whisp (Reply #10)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:04 AM
Hekate (21,466 posts)
16. Unbelievably gorgeous
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Thank you
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 02:59 PM
Neon2012 (88 posts)
11. Thank you.
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I'm tired of the doubters.
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Response to Neon2012 (Reply #11)
Sat Jan 5, 2013, 08:55 AM
freshwest (32,410 posts)
19. Me, too. Welcome to the BOG!
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 03:02 PM
Cha (125,772 posts)
12. Thanks, grantcart, for this big dose
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of reality, where we can discuss these issues without someone jumping on and cheap shotting their undying insulting hate at President Obama.
I also remember "Obamacare" when it wasn't good enough. "It should have been single payer".. the problem is.. it wouldn't have passed and we would have nothing. Now, we have something to build on. The President has the patience to get this right.. it's not so smooth with the "rodeo clown" Plan B-oner. Too bad those who stayed home in 2010 "Caved" .. PBO could be planning with Nancy Pelosi now. |
Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Dec 20, 2012, 10:01 PM
grantcart (38,888 posts)
13. For the record. Another day and another day of Republicans making fools out of themselves.
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I told you it would be fun. |
Response to grantcart (Reply #13)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 07:02 AM
Kath1 (1,115 posts)
14. Thank you for this and your original post, grantcart.
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This is fun to watch. Obama is more intelligent than all of those Republicans put together. He won the election. He has the support of the people and he knows it. I am looking forward to the next 4 years!
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Fri Dec 21, 2012, 02:10 PM
great white snark (1,991 posts)
15. Thanks grantcart and to all the BOGers/supporters spreading sanity on the other forums.
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How the hell do you deal with people who think every move by President Obama has a nefarious purpose?
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:04 AM
Hekate (21,466 posts)
17. Thank you so much grantcart for sweet reason
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Why is it in such short supply elsewhere?
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Response to grantcart (Original post)
Thu Jan 3, 2013, 03:36 AM
grantcart (38,888 posts)
18. With the New York and New Jersey Republicans now wanting to eat Boehner alive
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and the Tea Party Republicans wanting to eat any of the leadership dead there is going to be blood ankle deep in the Republican caucus. Didn't I tell you that it was going to be fun. |

