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Fri Feb 24, 2012, 01:48 PM

NBC’s new battleground map

Solid Dem (no chance at flip): DC, DE, HI, ME (3 EVs) MD, MA, NY, RI, VT (70 electoral votes)
Likely Dem (takes a landslide to flip): CA, CT, IL, ME, WA (94)
Lean Dem: ME (1 EV) MN, NJ, NM, OR, MI, WI (63)
Toss-up: CO, FL, NV, NM, NC, OH, PA, VA, NH (114)
Lean GOP: AZ, GA, IA, MO, (43)
Likely GOP (takes a landslide to flip): AL, AR, IN, LA, MS, MT, NE (1 EV), ND, SC, SD, TX (97)
Solid GOP (no chance at flip): AK, ID, KS, KY, NE (4 EVs) OK, TN, UT, WV, WY (57)

(Editor's Note: We accidentally put New Mexico in toss-up when we intended to put it in Lean D; that brings it to 227 D, 197, 114 toss. And the post now reflects that.)

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/02/24/10496527-first-thoughts-nbcs-new-battleground-map

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liberal N proud Feb 2012 OP
TheWraith Feb 2012 #1
tech3149 Feb 2012 #4
TheWraith Feb 2012 #5
leveymg Feb 2012 #2
RandySF Feb 2012 #3
UrbScotty Feb 2012 #6
Hutzpa Feb 2012 #7
JustAnotherGen Feb 2012 #8
Robbins Feb 2012 #9
DevonRex Feb 2012 #10

Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 01:52 PM

1. I still can't believe they put PA as a "toss up."

That's sort of like saying "Sure, the Buffalo Bills have a good shot at winning the Super Bowl."

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Response to TheWraith (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:07 PM

4. I guess you missed the earlier post with a poll putting Sanitarium on top in PA

It might have been a right leaning poll but it's still an embarrassment that so many in PA would vote for that fool considering his history with the state.
They used to say that PA was Philly and the Burgh with Alabama in between. Well I live to the east of the Burgh and I am constantly dumbfounded by the number of people that consider the Frothy one a reasonable person or someone they would elect to public office.

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Response to tech3149 (Reply #4)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:21 PM

5. PA is the great white whale of the Republican Party.

They always think they can win it, and they're always wrong. The last time a Republican won PA, they also won California and 39 other states. It's not happening.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:02 PM

2. Thought you were talking about the Mideast. . .

Sigh. Politics, I want some normalcy again . . . we can't have an election and be escalating toward new wars at the same time. Just doesn't work for me.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:06 PM

3. CA is "likely"?

There is NO WAY Romney will win here. Same goes for Illinois.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 02:39 PM

6. MI and NJ lean? Both should be be likely.

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Response to UrbScotty (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 03:22 PM

7. The media is working overtime to makke this election close

personally I know it is going to be a landslide victory for Obama, for the most part, the media putting
MI and NJ in lean makes it more dramatic than what it should be.

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Response to UrbScotty (Reply #6)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 04:29 PM

8. I think they put us in NJ lean

Because of Christie - but they aren't looking at the big picture.

Look at the number of voters in 2008, the number in 2008 of Rep and Dem voters.

Then look at those numbers in 2009 (Gov's Race).

The number of voters over all were lower in 2009 than 2008.


IF we can mobilize and get folks to the polls in Newark and Northern NJ - then it's just plain out Democratic. If they don't get there - then it only leans.

In 08 I was driving people around over the border in PA to get them to the polls (got up early, voted, then drove the 35 miles west).

This year I will get up early, go vote (first time my fiance will be voting so it's a big deal for this brand new American man ) and then we are both going to get the elderly and infirm to the polls in the Newark Area.

Most of the people I know from the 2008 campaign are back in full force after sleeping at the wheel in 2009.

Time to make NBC look foolish!

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Fri Feb 24, 2012, 05:06 PM

9. My Take

California should be Solid.MN,NJ,Michigan should be likely Dem.PA,NH should be lean Dem.

Ia,Mo,Az should be tossup.Obama ties Romney In Mo and Az according to PPP.

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Response to liberal N proud (Original post)

Sat Feb 25, 2012, 02:50 PM

10. Living in a toss up state is exhausting.

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