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WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:17 PM Dec 2011

New Poll: Newt falls to fourth place in Iowa--Ron Paul now leads--Perry showing surprising

Another Poll Shows Gingrich Collapse in Iowa
A new InsiderAdvantage poll in Iowa confirms the implosion of Newt Gingrich's presidential campaign in the first voting state.

Ron Paul leads with 24%, followed by Mitt Romney at 18%, Rick Perry at 16%, Gingrich at 13%, Michele Bachmann at 10%, Jon Huntsman at 4% and Rick Santorum at 3%.

http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/12/19/another_poll_shows_gingrich_collapse_in_iowa.html

The GOP love affair with Newt sure didn't last long.

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New Poll: Newt falls to fourth place in Iowa--Ron Paul now leads--Perry showing surprising (Original Post) WI_DEM Dec 2011 OP
Yet Romney hasn't gained even with all the "front runners" who have collapsed, has he? I'm thinking this will go all the way NYC Liberal Dec 2011 #1
Republicans Robbins Dec 2011 #3
Oh I agree. I don't think that scenario would be a good one. NYC Liberal Dec 2011 #6
If Perry does indeed manage to come in third he could WI_DEM Dec 2011 #2
Coming in third would confuse Perry rury Dec 2011 #13
Ron Paul Is Batshit Crazy, he'll flame-out when people examine his record. Perry can recover. mikekohr Dec 2011 #27
I'll admit, I've lost track. Is this the fastest fall from the top of heap so far? Tarheel_Dem Dec 2011 #4
A gentle reminder from rightwing radio of how many enemies he has made. dimbear Dec 2011 #14
And the really fun thing ... BlueMTexpat Dec 2011 #5
And Ron Paul leads.... LiberalLovinLug Dec 2011 #7
The GOP is continuing to splinter. JoePhilly Dec 2011 #8
See Minnesota for details. n/t Scuba Dec 2011 #24
"The GOP love affair with Newt sure didn't last long." Jack Rabbit Dec 2011 #9
Scary Ron Paul abelenkpe Dec 2011 #10
Paul Robbins Dec 2011 #11
I dont like that. Perry frightens me. cthulu2016 Dec 2011 #12
"Frightened" of what? Are you an adult or a mouse? Perry the IDIOT would be a fucking GIFT ! RBInMaine Dec 2011 #15
Agree I see no reason to be worried about any of them treestar Dec 2011 #26
Pardon me, but... Lone_Star_Dem Dec 2011 #18
A Ron Paul win would shake things up a bit. As would Newt coming in 4th. Or 5th if Bachmann yellowcanine Dec 2011 #16
I'm having so much fun connecticut yankee Dec 2011 #17
It is entertaining, isn't it! :-D trusty elf Dec 2011 #19
"next one out of the clown car" Bucky Dec 2011 #21
Newt Gingrich: "I will be the nominee" Bucky Dec 2011 #20
I'm starting to lose track of the sequence now. mwb970 Dec 2011 #22
Huntsman? Romer? (I don't even know how to spell his name) rurallib Dec 2011 #23
It's pretty bad when "Mr. Frothy" even REGISTERS in a poll. HopeHoops Dec 2011 #25
Pick your choice: militarist, probusiness, antichoice and any GLBT rights, or any combination of all Mass Dec 2011 #28
Some baggers are now saying they hate ALL the GOP candidates. freshwest Dec 2011 #29
Obama's gonna take it again, hands down, just like this Pro-Obama bumper sticker says... Thinker Thunk It Jan 2012 #30

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
1. Yet Romney hasn't gained even with all the "front runners" who have collapsed, has he? I'm thinking this will go all the way
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 12:34 PM
Dec 2011

to the convention.

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
3. Republicans
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 01:50 PM
Dec 2011

We don't want It going to convention where a presidential candiate who hasn't had to go through debates and primarys are choosen.
Obama can beat Romney despite the MSM keep wanting to see he's the most electable.We don't need one the MSM can sell as
moderate.

Polls have shown If an open convention were to lead to Jeb Bush as nominee Obama would beat him.

mikekohr

(2,312 posts)
27. Ron Paul Is Batshit Crazy, he'll flame-out when people examine his record. Perry can recover.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:13 PM
Dec 2011

If people begin to drop out look for the anti Romney vote to rally around Perry. He has the moey to stay in this.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
4. I'll admit, I've lost track. Is this the fastest fall from the top of heap so far?
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 01:58 PM
Dec 2011

Newt can't even blame the liberal media for his fall. His own bretheren took him out.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
14. A gentle reminder from rightwing radio of how many enemies he has made.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 09:23 PM
Dec 2011

Too bad. I was looking forward to the GOP finally and forever abandoning any claim to have values.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
7. And Ron Paul leads....
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 03:05 PM
Dec 2011

I do not agree with Ron Paul on some of his fundamental beliefs. Like his Dog-Eat-Dog Libertarian Utopia where no one pays taxes and no one regulates pollution standards or product safety, or work safety etc....and if you can't afford a doctor you die. Pretty soon we would be back to Charles Dickens England and the poor houses.

But it IS funny to hear Ron Paul be booed at debates with a hardcore rightwing audience when he talks about cutting the military budget and overseas endeavors like Iraq and Afghanistan. That poll shows that outside of that crafted TV audience and among the more moderate and independent voter, THEY AGREE WITH HIM.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
9. "The GOP love affair with Newt sure didn't last long."
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 05:15 PM
Dec 2011

All they had to do was look at what they were getting: The soon-to-be-extinct species, the Georgia Venomous Newt.

Now the apparent front runner is a hard line ideologue with no common sense (just like other hard line ideologues).

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
11. Paul
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 06:31 PM
Dec 2011

He won't get the nomination.He may win Iowa and come off strong 2 In NH.In Florida even Republicans won't like the SS and Medicare
are Uncon talk.Romney came off as Resonable one.

In general election those who cheer his antiwar,cut defense,and antibig government will learn his views on SS and Medicare.His
antitax and antisocial Programs.

Our nightmare sceniro Is open convention and Republicans pick someone like Mitch Danials.Who hasn't gone through debates and
primarys.Yes Obama can blast him as Bush's budget director.I'd rather run against one who has gone so far to the right In Primarys
that he provides all sound bites for ads.Romney already have big problems that Obama can make good use of.

cthulu2016

(10,960 posts)
12. I dont like that. Perry frightens me.
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 08:01 PM
Dec 2011

I expected it, but I don't like it.

He's the only one in the clown car I can see the american people warming up to.

He's a brutish, weak, moron like reagan and w.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
26. Agree I see no reason to be worried about any of them
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 01:25 PM
Dec 2011

If they were worrisome, they'd be way out in front by now.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
18. Pardon me, but...
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 11:58 PM
Dec 2011

...

That is too funny! The man is a total idiot. Not a half-wit like bush, or an ignorant attention junkie like Palin. A REAL IDIOT.

I'm going to make a prediction here and you can hold me to it. We will not see another Texas governor as president in our lifetimes. Baby bush did plenty to assure that, but Perry sealed the deal with his national run.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
16. A Ron Paul win would shake things up a bit. As would Newt coming in 4th. Or 5th if Bachmann
Tue Dec 20, 2011, 10:21 PM
Dec 2011

supporters come out in droves. What a hoot that would be.

mwb970

(11,358 posts)
22. I'm starting to lose track of the sequence now.
Wed Dec 21, 2011, 08:36 AM
Dec 2011

I have it as Trump, Bachmann, Perry, Cain, Gingrich, Paul. Is that right? Who's next?

Mass

(27,315 posts)
28. Pick your choice: militarist, probusiness, antichoice and any GLBT rights, or any combination of all
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 10:41 AM
Dec 2011

that. (add racist to the list).

None of them is acceptable in my choice.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
29. Some baggers are now saying they hate ALL the GOP candidates.
Sat Dec 24, 2011, 04:36 PM
Dec 2011

Of course, they'd never vote for Obama. No, hell would freeze over first.

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