Wed Dec 14, 2011, 01:37 PM
Pirate Smile (27,530 posts)
"Mitt Romney’s casual, effortless falsehoods" - We need more focus on Mitt as Con Man, Liar, Fraud.Mitt Romney’s casual, effortless falsehoods
By Greg Sargent One of the more remarkable things about Mitt Romney’s falsehoods is how casual they are. I’m not talking about the big Romney lies (Obama apologized for America; Obama made the economy worse; etc.). Rather, I’m talking about the small, almost inconquential falsehoods that slide out of Romney, day in and day out, as smoothly as a puck on an air hockey table. Here, for instance, is Romney hitting back at Newt Gingrich’s recent criticism of the layoffs that occured on Romney’s watch at Bain Capital: -snip- Yet Romney, in a clearly calculated rebuttal, deftly slipped in the idea that Gingrich had called his Bain actions “un-American.” -snip- I continue to maintain that Romney’s ability to lie, dissemble, distort and equivocate so effortlessly is a far more important story — and is far more telling about his character — than any $10,000 bet. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/mitt-romneys-casual-effortess-falsehoods/2011/12/14/gIQAYXS0tO_blog.html That portrait of Romney fits very well with this one: Two Candidates
Jonathan Chait: "The robotic consistency of Romney's newfound conservatism does contrast sharply with Gingrich, who lurches between hysterical right-wing paranoia and bouts of bipartisanship. And yet the erratic character of Gingrich's swings suggests that they're unplanned, and thus that they spring from actual conviction, albeit momentary convictions. Gingrich actually believes what he is advocating at the moment he is advocating it. Nobody can plausibly say the same of Romney." "Romney is the handsome swindler who plots to win your mother's heart and make off with her fortune. Gingrich is like the husband who periodically gets drunk and runs off to spend a week with a stripper in a low-rent motel but always comes home in the end. Which one would you rather see your mother marry?" http://politicalwire.com/archives/2011/12/14/two_candidates.html Full article: Romney’s Eerie Post-Flip-Flop Consistency
By Jonathan Chait When Mitt Romney decided to get Republican ideological-purity cautionary tale and non-witch Christine O’Donnell to announce her endorsement of him, he was probably thinking about how useful it would be to have the support of another staunch conservative. He may not have been thinking about some of the secondary issues involved in this plan, such as the fact that it would require O’Donnell to talk, which would involve her saying awkward things like, “he’s been consistent since he changed his mind.” The line actually gets to the nub of the conservative question on Romney. Since he changed his mind, he has indeed been dogmatically consistent. (In contrast to Newt Gingrich.) But why? One of the most revealing stories I’ve seen on Romney was written by Jonathan Weisman last month in The Wall Street Journal. In it, Weisman chronicles the degree to which Romney simply flipped a switch in 2005, deciding virtually overnight to stop courting moderates and liberals he needed to get elected in Massachusetts and to start courting the right. The switch occurred across the board, on social as well as economic issues: -snip- The positive interpretation of this narrative, if you’re a conservative, is that Romney will stay bought — he decided to ingratiate himself with the right, and he needs to retain the right's support to accomplish anything. That’s more or less the argument Ramesh Ponnuru made in his National Review cover story endorsing him. The negative interpretation is that Romney is essentially running a con, though it’s impossible to tell if he was conning Massachusetts then or is conning Republicans now. (My guess, based on Romney’s admiration for his moderate father, is that he’s conning conservatives now, but I can’t really be certain.) When you’re running a con, of course you stay consistent – you have to keep up the front, no matter what. http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/12/romneys-eerie-post-flip-flop-consistency.html I think Romney gets treated too much like he is a harmless flip-flopper, who just wants to be liked. Poor Mittens. He really is an inveterate liar. He's a fraud & con man now OR he was when he ran for Senate & Governor of Massachusetts. I'm glad Greg Sargent is pushing this fact because most reporters are just ignoring it.
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| Pirate Smile | Dec 2011 | OP | |
| Angry Dragon | Dec 2011 | #1 | |
| Pirate Smile | Dec 2011 | #2 | |
| sufrommich | Dec 2011 | #3 | |
| sufrommich | Dec 2011 | #4 | |
| Pirate Smile | Dec 2011 | #5 | |
| Cha | Dec 2011 | #6 |
Response to Pirate Smile (Original post)
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 01:49 PM
Angry Dragon (24,073 posts)
1. Why worry about mitt at this time??
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Let the republicans eat each other
and then save your energy to defeat the nominee Collect information now and use it later |
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #1)
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 02:00 PM
Pirate Smile (27,530 posts)
2. Good point but he is given a pass he doesn't deserve. As if he is benign instead of malevolent.
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His lies don't deserve to be treated like they are harmless.
He needs to get defined early not just as a flip-flopper, but as a con man, fraud and liar. That means the difference between him and Newt is smaller then some folks think. |
Response to Angry Dragon (Reply #1)
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 03:23 PM
sufrommich (13,521 posts)
3. We aren't really wasting energy commenting on
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a forum though.
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Response to Pirate Smile (Original post)
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 03:24 PM
sufrommich (13,521 posts)
4. I love this analogy:
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"Romney is the handsome swindler who plots to win your mother's heart and make off with her fortune. Gingrich is like the husband who periodically gets drunk and runs off to spend a week with a stripper in a low-rent motel but always comes home in the end. Which one would you rather see your mother marry?"
I also love the fact that the GOP pool is so shallow that they are reduced to making this choice. |
Response to sufrommich (Reply #4)
Wed Dec 14, 2011, 04:49 PM
Pirate Smile (27,530 posts)
5. Yeah, I love that too. It is a great way of explaining the difference between the two.
Response to Pirate Smile (Original post)
Fri Dec 16, 2011, 03:15 AM
Cha (124,684 posts)
6. Romney's a pandering on his knees sociopath
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who thinks he's going to lie, cheat, and insult his way into the White House. I read somewhere that Obama Team's relentless exposure of those lies have taken a toll on the poor pitiful empty headed mitt who obviously doesn't know anything except how to insult the President with lies and cheap shots from his ass just like all the other haters. They're so boring.
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