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Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:29 PM

Obama getting 55% of the Vote

In the tally of the last ballots being counted from the Nov. 6, 2012, US presidential election, Obama is marking up 55% of the votes.

These votes are probably all paper ballots, coming from provisional, absentee and others. Definitely not electronic.

These are in the order of millions of votes. So why is there such a difference from the votes cast before and on the day of the election that were used to call it for Obama?

Obama is said to have won with just under 51%.
And now he's tallying 55%.

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Reply Obama getting 55% of the Vote (Original post)
RobertEarl Nov 2012 OP
Tx4obama Nov 2012 #1
DonViejo Nov 2012 #2
FogerRox Nov 2012 #3
RobertEarl Nov 2012 #5
hrmjustin Nov 2012 #4
ilikemaps Dec 2012 #6
Cliff Arnebeck Jan 2013 #7
RobertEarl Jan 2013 #8

Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

Thu Nov 29, 2012, 10:38 PM

1. Because more Democrats tend to vote absentee compared to Republicans, and ...

and more Democrats were taken off voter lists/targeted this election so there were more Democrats that had to vote with a provisional ballot.
Also, many of the remaining ballots are coming in from BLUE states.

The current vote totals here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/lv?key=0AjYj9mXElO_QdHpla01oWE1jOFZRbnhJZkZpVFNKeVE

and here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Results

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Response to FogerRox (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:09 AM

5. 7,082,155 Late Votes, Foger!!


Nov. 29

Obama 65,006,643 minus 11/7... 60,652,149 equals 4,354,494 late votes

Romney: 60,538,051 minus 11/7... 57,810,390 equals 2,727,661 late votes

Total late votes Obama and Romney 7,082,155

From Nov 7
Obama 60,652,149
Romney 57,810,390


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Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

Fri Nov 30, 2012, 12:07 AM

4. NY has yet to announce our absentee ballot numbers yet.

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Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

Tue Dec 11, 2012, 10:49 PM

6. Election map


I usually use this website: http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/

Right now, it has Obama at 50-51%

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Response to RobertEarl (Original post)

Fri Jan 4, 2013, 12:11 PM

7. It has to do with where votes are "red shifted."

As you point out, late votes are "not electronic." Election day votes are. A five point "red shift" has characterized our Presidential elections since 1988--denying our elected Democrats the landslide result they deserved and denying defeated Democrats elections they actually won. It has been suggested that this phenomenon is associated with Karl Rove getting technology on the side of his primary and general election clients over this period.

The mathematics of all this has been brilliantly researched and documented by professional mathematician Richard Charnin. Since 2004 this has been the primary, if not exclusive focus of his professional life. The same difference you observe between election day votes and late votes applies to early votes.

Here is the link to Charnin' s analysis for the 2012 election--state-by-state and national (including weighted averages for the national numbers and percentages): http://richardcharnin.wordpress.com/2013/01/02/2012-election-fraud-a-true-vote-model-proof/

The problem was addressed at a NYC press conference on October 22, 2012, and in DC at the National Press Club on October 24, 2012 featuring former Rove operative, Jill Simpson. Both conferences can be viewed at: http://electionprotectionaction.org. Richard Charnin participated in the DC conference by telephone.

Cliff Arnebeck

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Response to Cliff Arnebeck (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 5, 2013, 07:05 PM

8. Hello, Cliff

Folks, Cliff is correct. Richard Charnin is the person who got me thinking about this. That after I read this report from him at the link below from opednews.

The numbers are evidence of the manipulation of election numbers.

I don't care what anyone says, in a very large set of numbers like this there should be similar outcomes. Democrats and republicans don't vote all that different, it is just in the way the votes are counted.


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